From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Mon Jun 2 02:14:18 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Bill Seward) Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 21:14:18 -0400 Subject: [pmmail-list] Password entry fields character changed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --_=_=_=IMA.BOUNDARY.HTML_0801020=_=_=_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I dont know why But its in some of my emails now too ------------ On Fri, 30 May 2003 10:42:05 +0100, Brian Morrison wrote: >All the asterisks in my password fields (startup and also POP3 >passwords in property tabs) have now been replaced by a vertical black >rectangle in the new build 2717 code. > >Any ideas why? Cosmetic, but it makes you wonder what is going on in >the code. > >-- >Brian Morrison bdm@fenrir.org.uk > do you know how far this has gone? > just how damaged have I become? > 'Even Deeper' by Nine Inch Nails >- pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- >To POST to the list, send your message to: >pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com > >To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com >with the first line of the message body being... >UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- --_=_=_=IMA.BOUNDARY.HTML_0801020=_=_=_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I dont know why But its in some of my emails now too
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On Fri, 30 May 2003 10:42:05 +0100, Brian Morrison wrote:

>All the asterisks in my password fields (startup and also POP3
>passwords in property tabs) have now been replaced by a vertical black
>rectangle in the new build 2717 code.
>
>Any ideas why? Cosmetic, but it makes you wonder what is going on in
>the code.
>
>--
>Brian Morrison bdm@fenrir.org.uk
> do you know how far this has gone?
> just how damaged have I become?
> 'Even Deeper' by Nine Inch Nails
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--_=_=_=IMA.BOUNDARY.HTML_0801020=_=_=_-- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Mon Jun 2 02:17:11 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (John Angelico) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 11:17:11 +1000 (EST) Subject: [pmmail-list] New beta and memory leak in OS/2? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <0041954390.000002G7@ollie> On Sun, 01 Jun 2003 09:01:18 -0400, brandonk@blueprintsoftwareworks.com wrote: > >Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 16:52:10 +0200 (CEST) >From: "Frank Winkler @home" >Subject: Re: [pmmail-list] New beta and memory leak > >On Sat, 31 May 2003 08:33:08 +0100 (BST), Dave Saville wrote: > > >>Could this be relevant to the OS/2 program as well? Now that I have a cable > >>connection, I am leaving PMMail running far longer than 8before, along with > >>NS4.61 [to which it has a link for URLs of course]. I use RMB popups all > >>the time, and I notice that after an hour or two, my swap file has expanded > >>quite a lot. > > > >Don't think so - I am running 2.10.2010 24*7 for weeks on end and > >So do I ... > Hmmm, I am running 2382 > >don't see a swap problem. > >... but I can confirm that the memory being used by PMMail constantly grows. I >wasn't able to track this down to the actual reason but I don't think it's >related to the popup stuff too much cause there are only very few RMB popups >in my case. But maybe there is a connection to the trash folder which is >getting filled up and its index being maintained in memory. >After about two weeks of uninterrupted operation I have to stop and relaunch >PMMail to get my OS back to life. This normally brings about 50 MB of virtual >memory. Now you have me confused again! I lose about 100Mb of swapper (ie. that much less space is unused as per system resource monitor) within 3-4 hours. So like you I stop and restart PMMail and NS. This doesn't compare with your experience, so I can still suspect NS4.61, can't I? Best regards John Angelico OS/2 SIG talldad@melbpc.org.au or talldad@kepl.com.au -------------------------------------- PMTagline v1.50 - Copyright, 1996-1997, Stephen Berg and John Angelico ... Definitions #725: Abalone: Expression of extreme disbelief. - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Mon Jun 2 05:04:59 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Robert Traynor (BobT)) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 14:04:59 +1000 Subject: [pmmail-list] New beta and memory leak in OS/2? In-Reply-To: <0041954390.000002G7@ollie> Message-ID: <200306020404.h5244Da32556@mail022.syd.optusnet.com.au> Hi John, I am using eCS 1.1 (but sending this from WinXP). Personally, I would point the blame at Netscape 4.61 for os/2. I have recently discovered that if my os/2 Netscape 4.61 bookmark file exceedes 450kb, then NS will stay in memory but not show in the alt-esc task list. Some sort of zombie thread. Worse, the only way to get rid of it, is the shutdown, often by way of ctrl-alt-del as it would frequently refuse to allow the OS to complete its shutdown proceedure. It cannot be killed by any utility I have tried so far. The zombie thread thing is also made worse if I have any of the later mozilla code browsers for os/2 or windows, sharing the SAME bookmark file as os/2 Netscape 4.61. There is a lot of old code and don't forget, NS 4.61 is not only old, BUT is an "OLD WINDOWS Netscape" ported code base. Hope this helps. Regards, Robert Traynor (BobT). 2 June 2003 13:59 On Mon, 02 Jun 2003 11:17:11 +1000 (EST), John Angelico wrote: > On Sun, 01 Jun 2003 09:01:18 -0400, brandonk@blueprintsoftwareworks.com > wrote: > >Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 16:52:10 +0200 (CEST) > >From: "Frank Winkler @home" > >Subject: Re: [pmmail-list] New beta and memory leak > > > >On Sat, 31 May 2003 08:33:08 +0100 (BST), Dave Saville wrote: > > > > >>Could this be relevant to the OS/2 program as well? Now that I have a cable > > >>connection, I am leaving PMMail running far longer than before, along with > > >>NS4.61 [to which it has a link for URLs of course]. I use RMB popups all > > >>the time, and I notice that after an hour or two, my swap file has expanded > > >>quite a lot. > > > > > >Don't think so - I am running 2.10.2010 24*7 for weeks on end and > > > >So do I ... > > > > Hmmm, I am running 2382 > > > >don't see a swap problem. > > > >... but I can confirm that the memory being used by PMMail constantly grows. I > >wasn't able to track this down to the actual reason but I don't think it's > >related to the popup stuff too much cause there are only very few RMB popups > >in my case. But maybe there is a connection to the trash folder which is > >getting filled up and its index being maintained in memory. > >After about two weeks of uninterrupted operation I have to stop and relaunch > >PMMail to get my OS back to life. This normally brings about 50 MB of virtual > >memory. > > Now you have me confused again! > > I lose about 100Mb of swapper (ie. that much less space is unused as per > system resource monitor) within 3-4 hours. So like you I stop and restart > PMMail and NS. > > This doesn't compare with your experience, so I can still suspect NS4.61, > can't I? > > > Best regards > John Angelico > OS/2 SIG > talldad@melbpc.org.au or talldad@kepl.com.au ,-._|\ Robert Traynor (BobT) / Oz \ email rtraynor@removeme.optusnet.com.au \_,--.x/ - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Mon Jun 2 10:19:22 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Frank Winkler - Sun Germany - Sun Services) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 11:19:22 +0200 (MEST) Subject: [pmmail-list] New beta and memory leak in OS/2? Message-ID: <200306020919.h529JMoc027216@sun-gy.germany> >> >Don't think so - I am running 2.10.2010 24*7 for weeks on end and >> >>So do I ... > >Hmmm, I am running 2382 I'm still on 2010 because it was the last version which wants to come up on my system. Looking forward to eCS 1.1 on the new box. >>PMMail to get my OS back to life. This normally brings about 50 MB of >>virtual memory. Replace this by "50-70 MB". But the point is that I was talking about my ancient machine with just 64 MB of RAM so that the mentioned amount is kind of a factor, compared to your 100 MB ;) ... >Now you have me confused again! > >I lose about 100Mb of swapper (ie. that much less space is unused as per >system resource monitor) within 3-4 hours. So like you I stop and >restart PMMail and NS. > >This doesn't compare with your experience, so I can still suspect NS4.61, >can't I? I also discovered memory problem when I was sill using NS 4.61 and also do with Mozilla. I wonder if there's really that amount of badly coded applications or if we maybe have a problem in the memory management of the OS? :( In my case, the ordered list of main memory eaters is: 1. PMINews 2. Mozilla / Netscape 3. PMMail (but this roughly equals the list of top-used applications) Regards -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Frank Winkler frank.winkler@germany.sun.com Sun Microsystems - Remote Admin Center Sonnenallee 1 Voice +49 89 46008.2755 85551 Heimstetten - Germany Fax +49 89 46008.2740 - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Mon Jun 2 10:22:28 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Morten Torstensen) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 11:22:28 +0200 Subject: [pmmail-list] Enabling Return Receipt by Default In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030602092225.92F3178E6D@mail.broadpark.no> On Sat, 31 May 2003 08:07:08 +0550, Parag Mehta wrote: >IS there a way to enable return receipt for all mails that i send instead of manually enabling this feature each time i compose an email ? Why would you want to do that? Isn't it bad netiquette to have return-receipt on mail unless you really really need it? //Morten Torstensen //ROU Bliss At The End Of A Barrel "It's time for the human race to enter the solar system." -- Governor George W. Bush - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Mon Jun 2 12:53:50 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Robert Gammon) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 06:53:50 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [pmmail-list] New beta and memory leak in OS/2? In-Reply-To: <200306020919.h529JMoc027216@sun-gy.germany> Message-ID: Well, I have eCS 1.1 up and running with PMMail/2 v2.20.2382. Unfortunately, something is broke, signatures no longer appear on my messages. Partitions got messed with in the 'upgrade' from Warp4, so I'm not certain whether PMMail or eCS is to blame for this. In any case, 2382 HAS to be the version I use, because my e-mail provider insists on SMTP authentication, and the other versions won't do that Robert Gammon Houston, TX manually typed sig Robert Gammon Houston, TX - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Wed Jun 4 11:06:00 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (David Forrester) Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 20:06:00 +1000 (AEST) Subject: [pmmail-list] New beta and memory leak in OS/2? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200306041046.h54AkcMh044699@smtp1.adl2.internode.on.net> On Mon, 02 Jun 2003 06:53:50 -0500 (CDT), Robert Gammon wrote: > I have eCS 1.1 up and running with PMMail/2 v2.20.2382. >Unfortunately, something is broke, signatures no longer appear on >my messages. Partitions got messed with in the 'upgrade' from >Warp4, so I'm not certain whether PMMail or eCS is to blame for >this. In any case, 2382 HAS to be the version I use, because my >e-mail provider insists on SMTP authentication, and the other >versions won't do that > >Robert Gammon >Houston, TX manually typed sig >Robert Gammon >Houston, TX Robert, Does this mean you typed your sig twice? For what's worth, PMMail/2 V2.2.2382 is seems to be working perfectly here after my eCS 1.1 install. -- David Forrester davidfor@internode.on.net http://www.os2world.com/djfos2/ - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Fri Jun 6 02:58:08 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Michael Lueck) Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 21:58:08 -0400 Subject: [pmmail-list] New beta and memory leak In-Reply-To: <0044686830.000002FH@ollie> Message-ID: <200306060157.UAA13307@turqua.propagation.net> On Sat, 31 May 2003 11:53:42 +1000 (EST), John Angelico wrote: >Could this be relevant to the OS/2 program as well? Based on what Peter said about the code, I would guess that is the case. As for getting it compiled....???? Michael Lueck Lueck Data Systems http://www.lueckdatasystems.com/ - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Fri Jun 6 06:07:40 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Randy Fowler) Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 01:07:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [pmmail-list] New beta and memory leak in OS/2? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 02 Jun 2003 06:53:50 -0500 (CDT), Robert Gammon wrote: >Unfortunately, something is broke, signatures no longer appear on >my messages. I had a similar problem with signatures a month or so ago. It was caused by my renaming the subdirs that PMMailed used. My signatures were still there in a subdir, but PMMail didn't know where to look anymore. To fix, I ended up opening the old signature files with an editor, created new Signatures and cut & pasted between the two. HTH, Randy - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Fri Jun 6 11:42:02 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Michael Lueck) Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 06:42:02 -0400 Subject: [pmmail-list] Sigs not working, Was -> Re: New beta and memory leak in OS/2? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200306061041.FAA14090@turqua.propagation.net> On Fri, 06 Jun 2003 01:07:40 -0400 (EDT), Randy Fowler wrote: >I had a similar problem with signatures a month or so ago. It was caused >by my renaming the subdirs that PMMailed used. My signatures were still >there in a subdir, but PMMail didn't know where to look anymore. Correct. There is a text file index of the sigs. You must edit that as well to update the path and all is well. Michael Lueck Lueck Data Systems http://www.lueckdatasystems.com/ - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Sat Jun 7 09:13:32 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Dave Saville) Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 09:13:32 +0100 (BST) Subject: [pmmail-list] Another memory problem with OS/2? Message-ID: <20030607081558.TSTI11246.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@pooh> Further to the thread in the last couple of weeks. I am running pmmail - 2.10.2010 OS/2 and it is up 24 *7. I have noticed that it will suddenly stop displaying mails in the preview pane. I am not sure if this is after the trash folder gets over about 2000 mails or pmmail has been running for more than two weeks or both. Bouncing pmmail cures the problem. -- Regards Dave Saville - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Sat Jun 7 12:54:07 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Mike Kilroy) Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 07:54:07 -0400 Subject: [pmmail-list] new icons in win beta? In-Reply-To: <200306061041.FAA14090@turqua.propagation.net> Message-ID: <200306071153.h57BrXKV024627@kilroywashere.com> I like the clean new look of the icons in PMMail2kStd2202717.exe (no boxes around each one looks a lot cleaner and 'newer.' My question is: why don't I see these new icons on my laptop? it is win98 rather than xp, other than that, it does say ver 2717, but the icons did not update with this new beta. Ideas? Mike, AC8V \\|// ( o . o ) -----o00o------(_)------o00o----- - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Sat Jun 7 16:19:32 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Steve Marvin) Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 11:19:32 -0400 Subject: [pmmail-list] new icons in win beta? In-Reply-To: <200306071153.h57BrXKV024627@kilroywashere.com> Message-ID: <0HG400KA6AKM0C@mtaout05.icomcast.net> On Sat, 07 Jun 2003 07:54:07 -0400, Mike Kilroy wrote: >I like the clean new look of the icons in PMMail2kStd2202717.exe (no >boxes around each one looks a lot cleaner and 'newer.' > >My question is: why don't I see these new icons on my laptop? it is >win98 rather than xp, other than that, it does say ver 2717, but the >icons did not update with this new beta. > >Ideas? > It's the XP control that gives the icons that appearance, the icons themselves have not changed, note the XP specific changes in Brandon T. King's email announcing 2717. - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Sat Jun 7 17:42:20 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Hazen Woods) Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 11:42:20 -0500 Subject: [pmmail-list] PMMail2K - Nested folders rearranged after crash - how correct? Message-ID: <200306071642.h57GgLA22528@solomon.io.com> Due to a crash some time back my folders within one of my Email accounts is corrupted. As simply as I can state the problem suppose over 10 folders most had subfolders. One of the folders - Folder A, which had many subfolders, which I will call A1, A2, A3. . On of those subfolders, Ax contained four subfolders, Ax1, Ax2, Ax3 and Ax4. After the crash, Folder A and the subfolders were arranged differently as follows: The mail folder was no longer Folder A, but was Folder Ax. One of the subfolders of Ax is what used to be Folder A, however nested within Folder A are the 4 subfolders which used to be nested under Ax. The rest of the subfolders in what used to be Folder A are now subfolders in Ax. This has lasted for some time and I don't have an up-to-date backup. This is the second time I have posted this. First time got very little help except the suggestion that I should have had a backup. I need suggestions. Please help. Hazen Woods Austin, TX - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Sat Jun 7 20:09:57 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Maurice_Gu=E9ron?=) Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 21:09:57 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [pmmail-list] PMMail2K - Nested folders rearranged after crash - how correct? In-Reply-To: <200306071642.h57GgLA22528@solomon.io.com> Message-ID: <20030607190806.23DB93C431@postfix4-1.free.fr> Hello Hazen, I haven't had this pro blem, so I can only make bland suggestions. First of course make a copy of the entire folder tree for safety. Second try re-indexing the folders. Mybe starting as far away from the root. Another approach suggested by Stan Sidlov: ======================= On Sat, 17 May 2003 00:09:56 +0100 (BST), Kevin Burton wrote: >I just had my system hang up on me. When I rebooted I seem to have lost >about a years worth of emails from my inbox. Cant re-index for some >reason. Pmmail drops out/closes on it's own. > >Anyone had similar problems. Yes. The only way to handle it is to rename/delete the *.bag file in each affected *.FLD folder and then rebuild the index which should happen automatically when you try to open the folder from the interface. ======================== HTH mg |Due to a crash some time back my folders within one of my Email |accounts is corrupted. As simply as I can state the problem suppose |over 10 folders most had subfolders. One of the folders - Folder A, |which had many subfolders, which I will call A1, A2, A3. . On of those |subfolders, Ax contained four subfolders, Ax1, Ax2, Ax3 and Ax4. | |After the crash, Folder A and the subfolders were arranged differently |as follows: The mail folder was no longer Folder A, but was Folder Ax. | One of the subfolders of Ax is what used to be Folder A, however |nested within Folder A are the 4 subfolders which used to be nested |under Ax. The rest of the subfolders in what used to be Folder A are |now subfolders in Ax. | |This has lasted for some time and I don't have an up-to-date backup. | |This is the second time I have posted this. First time got very little |help except the suggestion that I should have had a backup. I need |suggestions. Please help. | | |Hazen Woods |Austin, TX | | | |- pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- |To POST to the list, send your message to: |pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com | |To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com |with the first line of the message body being... |UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com |--------------------------------------------------------------------- | | | Maurice GUERON, BIOP/PMC, Ecole polytechnique, 91128 Palaiseau, France phone: (33/0) 169 334 174 fax: (33/0) 169 333 004 e-mail: mg@pmc.polytechnique.fr In case of problems only, use : gueron@idf.ext.jussieu.fr - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Sat Jun 7 22:23:22 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Hazen Woods) Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 16:23:22 -0500 Subject: [pmmail-list] [real] PMMail2K - Nested folders rearranged after crash - how correct? Message-ID: <200306072123.h57LNKc10594@david.io.com> Thanks=20Maurice=20=20- I=20have=20reindexed=20the=20entire=20account=20which=20reveals=20no=20err= ors=20at=20this point,=20although=20I=20have=20reindexed=20the=20account=20in=20the=20past= .=20I=20have deleted=20the=20*.BAG=20folder=20for=20each=20of=20the=20ones=20that=20are= =20obviously incorrect=20and=20some=20others=20(there=20are=20over=2040=20in=20the=20on= e=20folder=20which=20is messed=20up.) My=20"guess"=20(very=20uneducated)=20is=20that=20the=20folder=20that=20nee= ds=20to=20reindexed would=20be=20the=20account=20files,=20but=20there=20is=20no=20obvious=20*.= BAG=20folder=20in that=20directory. Many=20thanks=20for=20the=20suggestions. On=20Sat,=2007=20Jun=202003=2021:09:57=20+0200=20(CEST),=20Maurice=20Gu=E9= ron=20wrote: >>Hello=20=20Hazen, >>I=20haven't=20had=20this=20pro=20blem,=20so=20I=20can=20only=20make=20bl= and=20suggestions.=20First=20of=20course=20 >>make=20a=20copy=20of=20the=20entire=20folder=20tree=20for=20safety.=20Se= cond=20try=20re-indexing=20the=20folders.=20 >>Mybe=20starting=20as=20far=20away=20from=20the=20root.=20 >> >>Another=20approach=20suggested=20by=20Stan=20Sidlov: >>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >>On=20Sat,=2017=20May=202003=2000:09:56=20+0100=20(BST),=20Kevin=20Burton= =20wrote: >> >>>I=20just=20had=20my=20system=20hang=20up=20on=20me.=20When=20I=20reboot= ed=20I=20seem=20to=20have=20lost >>>about=20a=20years=20worth=20of=20emails=20from=20my=20inbox.=20Cant=20r= e-index=20for=20some >>>reason.=20Pmmail=20drops=20out/closes=20on=20it's=20own. >>> >>>Anyone=20had=20similar=20problems. >> >>Yes.=20The=20only=20way=20to=20handle=20it=20is=20to=20rename/delete=20t= he=20*.bag=20file=20in=20each=20affected=20 >>*.FLD=20folder=20and=20then=20rebuild=20the=20index=20which=20should=20h= appen=20 >>automatically=20when=20you=20try=20to=20open=20the=20folder=20from=20the= =20interface.=20 >>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= >>HTH >>mg >> >>|Due=20to=20a=20crash=20some=20time=20back=20my=20folders=20within=20one= =20of=20my=20Email >>|accounts=20is=20corrupted.=20As=20simply=20as=20I=20can=20state=20the=20= problem=20suppose >>|over=2010=20folders=20most=20had=20subfolders.=20=20One=20of=20the=20fo= lders=20-=20=20Folder=20A, >>|which=20had=20many=20subfolders,=20which=20I=20will=20call=20A1,=20A2,=20= A3.=20.=20On=20of=20those >>|subfolders,=20Ax=20contained=20four=20subfolders,=20Ax1,=20Ax2,=20Ax3=20= and=20Ax4. >>| >>|After=20the=20crash,=20Folder=20A=20and=20the=20subfolders=20were=20arr= anged=20differently >>|as=20follows:=20=20The=20mail=20folder=20was=20no=20longer=20Folder=20A= ,=20but=20was=20Folder=20Ax. >>|=20One=20of=20the=20subfolders=20of=20Ax=20is=20what=20used=20to=20be=20= Folder=20A,=20however >>|nested=20within=20Folder=20A=20=20are=20the=204=20subfolders=20which=20= used=20to=20be=20nested >>|under=20Ax.=20=20The=20rest=20of=20the=20subfolders=20in=20what=20used=20= to=20be=20Folder=20A=20are >>|now=20subfolders=20in=20Ax. >>| >>|This=20has=20lasted=20for=20some=20time=20and=20I=20don't=20have=20an=20= up-to-date=20backup. >>| >>|This=20is=20the=20second=20time=20I=20have=20posted=20this.=20=20First=20= time=20got=20very=20little >>|help=20except=20the=20suggestion=20that=20I=20should=20have=20had=20a=20= backup.=20I=20need >>|suggestions.=20=20Please=20help. >>| >>| >>|Hazen=20Woods >>|Austin,=20TX >>| >>| >>| >>|-=20pmmail-list=20-=20The=20PMMail=20Discussion=20List=20--------------= ------------- >>|To=20POST=20to=20the=20list,=20send=20your=20message=20to: >>|pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com >>| >>|To=20UNSUBSCRIBE,=20send=20a=20message=20to=20mdaemon@bmtmicro.com=20 >>|with=20the=20first=20line=20of=20the=20message=20body=20being... >>|UNSUBSCRIBE=20pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com >>|--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>| >>| >>| >> >>Maurice=20GUERON,=20BIOP/PMC,=20Ecole=20polytechnique,=2091128=20Palaise= au,=20France >>phone:=20(33/0)=20169=20334=20174=09fax:=20(33/0)=20169=20333=20004 >>e-mail:=20mg@pmc.polytechnique.fr=20=20 >>In=20case=20of=20problems=20only,=20use=20:=20gueron@idf.ext.jussieu.fr >>-=20pmmail-list=20-=20The=20PMMail=20Discussion=20List=20---------------= ------------ >>To=20POST=20to=20the=20list,=20send=20your=20message=20to: >>pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com >> >>To=20UNSUBSCRIBE,=20send=20a=20message=20to=20mdaemon@bmtmicro.com=20 >>with=20the=20first=20line=20of=20the=20message=20body=20being... >>UNSUBSCRIBE=20pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- Hazen=20Woods Austin,=20TX=20USA eCS=20and=20Win2k=20Pro what=20a=20combination - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Sun Jun 8 11:37:36 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Andrew Z) Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 20:37:36 +1000 Subject: [pmmail-list] PMMail Win and Spam In-Reply-To: <20030506194948.ED8BC3E1B@basket.ball.reliam.net> Message-ID: <200306081036.h58AaoI28822@mail007.syd.optusnet.com.au> G'day folks, What Spam filtering software are people using in conjunction with the windoze version of PMMail? Thanks, AndrewZ... - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Sun Jun 8 14:31:10 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Robert Dahlem) Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 15:31:10 +0200 Subject: [pmmail-list] PMMail Win and Spam In-Reply-To: <200306081036.h58AaoI28822@mail007.syd.optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: On Sun, 08 Jun 2003 20:37:36 +1000, Andrew Z wrote: >What Spam filtering software are people using in conjunction with the >windoze version of PMMail? Trust the octopus. :-) http://popfile.sourceforge.net/ Regards, Robert - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Sun Jun 8 18:02:07 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Ronny Hippler) Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 13:02:07 -0400 Subject: [pmmail-list] PMMail Win and Spam In-Reply-To: <200306081036.h58AaoI28822@mail007.syd.optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: On Sun, 08 Jun 2003 20:37:36 +1000, Andrew Z wrote: >What Spam filtering software are people using in conjunction with the >windoze version of PMMail? Popfile works great once it's trained. -- If she offers you milk, make sure she goes to the fridge. Ronny Hippler || Spartanburg SC http://www.vr5.dyndns.org:8008/ || ftp://ftp.vr5.dyndns.org:2112/ For PGP key email with "PGPKey" in the subject - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Sun Jun 8 20:27:39 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Andrew Pitonyak) Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 15:27:39 -0400 Subject: [pmmail-list] Folder count bug In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200306081946.h58Jkp6E008960@ohsmtp03.ogw.rr.com> When I have an unread message in the trash that is marked important (folder is in read anyway), when I delete the message, it does not reduce the unread message count for the folder. Has anyone else seen this behavior? It has been there for a long time and I only recently figured out why my unread folder count frequently became off. Andrew Pitonyak - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Sun Jun 8 20:29:42 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Andrew Pitonyak) Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 15:29:42 -0400 Subject: [pmmail-list] PMMail Win and Spam In-Reply-To: <200306081036.h58AaoI28822@mail007.syd.optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <200306081948.h58Jms6E010363@ohsmtp03.ogw.rr.com> --_=_=_=IMA.BOUNDARY.HTML_3044760=_=_=_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I use http://www.pitonyak.org/spam.php/ I probably would have used the popmail stuff if it had been available when I started this other. It works very nicely. Andrew On Sun, 08 Jun 2003 20:37:36 +1000, Andrew Z wrote: >G'day folks, > >What Spam filtering software are people using in conjunction with the >windoze version of PMMail? > >Thanks, > >AndrewZ... > > >- pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- >To POST to the list, send your message to: >pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com > >To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com >with the first line of the message body being... >UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... 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I use

http://www.pitonyak.org/spam.php/

I probably would have used the popmail stuff if it had been available when I started this other. It works very nicely.

Andrew

On Sun, 08 Jun 2003 20:37:36 +1000, Andrew Z wrote:

>G'day folks,
>
>What Spam filtering software are people using in conjunction with the
>windoze version of PMMail?
>
>Thanks,
>
>AndrewZ...
>
>
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--_=_=_=IMA.BOUNDARY.HTML_3044760=_=_=_-- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Mon Jun 9 02:54:50 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Paul Hodges) Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 02:54:50 +0100 Subject: [pmmail-list] PMMail Win and Spam In-Reply-To: <200306081948.h58Jms6E010363@ohsmtp03.ogw.rr.com> Message-ID: <0010490840.0001VUQV@refety.qbss.com> I used Andrew Pitonyak's filter at http://www.pitonyak.org/spam.php/ for six months to filter all the mail for my office. It was very effective, though the routing of mail through it from our mail server was baroque. To rationalize the system, I have just changed to using the SMTP filter from http://assp.sourceforge.net. Paul Hodges QBS Software Ltd - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Mon Jun 9 05:16:21 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Randy Fowler) Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 00:16:21 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [pmmail-list] Filter > Outgoing: prompt for From address? Message-ID: Is there a way to get PMMail/2 to allow entering a From address when sending a msg from a certain account? I want to start using an Anti-Spam technique via unique email addresses for each recipient. Perhaps an account with a filter that processes an Outgoing (Pre-Send) REXX hook... which prompts for a From Address and changes it in the outgoing message before it's sent?? I've never played around with REXX hooks, but I've read over some in this list. If someone could show me the basics, as in PMMail hooks, etc, I could probably handle the rest of the REXX code. TIA, Randy Fowler - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Mon Jun 9 06:35:24 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (John Bridges) Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 22:35:24 -0700 Subject: [pmmail-list] PMMail Win and Spam In-Reply-To: <200306081036.h58AaoI28822@mail007.syd.optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <20030609053525.9002F4887B@mail1.panix.com> On Sun, 08 Jun 2003 20:37:36 +1000, Andrew Z wrote: >What Spam filtering software are people using in conjunction with the >windoze version of PMMail? SpamAssassin (via SAPROXY, it's free, it's powerful, and it's painless). http://saproxy.bloomba.com/docs/install.html - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Mon Jun 9 11:23:51 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Larry Alkoff) Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 05:23:51 -0500 Subject: [pmmail-list] Incomplete email downloads Message-ID: I am on quite a few email mailing lists and normally get about 300 emails daily. For the past two months or so the mail downloads will fail frequently. The failure usually takes the form of a stall at the "deleting message from server" stage and then a time out with an error in the error log. This is a problem because when I download again I get duplicates of all the messages that were sucessfully downloaded from the previous run. I believe this is an Austin TX RoadRunner problem because mail downloads normally complete OK when I do them at 3 am but not during daylight hours when the traffic is heavier. Of course it's a bit of a PITA to have to do mail at 3 am! Typical errors I get are: Socket error Server broke connection You are not authorized to use POP3 I am using the PMMail Professional program under Windows 98SE which was quite reliable until recently. Apparently when PMMail "deletes" an email from the server this does not physically take place until the entire run for the account completes sucessfully but I don't know if this behavior is from PMMail or RoadRunner. I have tried the PMMail "remote connection" direct server connection but this seems even more unreliable than a straight mail download. That is, the download of mail by remote control also fails at different spots. In addition it takes far more time and attention since it is necessary to mark each message to either download or delete after getting the list of headers. Could anyone shed some light on what is going on? Thanks, Larry Alkoff Larry Alkoff N2LA - Austin TX - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Mon Jun 9 11:48:30 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Paul Hodges) Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 11:48:30 +0100 Subject: [pmmail-list] Incomplete email downloads In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <0042510090.0001VV1M@refety.qbss.com> On Mon, 09 Jun 2003 05:23:51 -0500, Larry Alkoff wrote: > Apparently when PMMail "deletes" an email from the server this does not physically take place > until the entire run for the account completes sucessfully but I don't know if this behavior is from > PMMail or RoadRunner. This behaviour is specified by the POP3 standard. It has been suggested that PMMail be modified to download only a certain number of messages before logging off the server and on again, but this is not done at present (nor by any client I know of). Remote control is the only helpful option until you can find out why the connections are failing in the first place. Paul Hodges QBS Software Ltd - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Mon Jun 9 13:21:04 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Hazen Woods) Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 07:21:04 -0500 Subject: [pmmail-list] [real] PMMail Win and Spam In-Reply-To: <200306081036.h58AaoI28822@mail007.syd.optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <200306091220.h59CKs909229@solomon.io.com> Just started with POPfile and seems to work well. Still check the buckets before dumping. Warning, I began testing by sending mail to myself with "naughty words" to see how it works. This had the very unwanted effect of associating my real email address with SPAM and worse. HTH On Sun, 08 Jun 2003 20:37:36 +1000, Andrew Z wrote: >>G'day folks, >> >>What Spam filtering software are people using in conjunction with the >>windoze version of PMMail? >> >>Thanks, >> >>AndrewZ... >> >> >>- pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- >>To POST to the list, send your message to: >>pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com >> >>To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com >>with the first line of the message body being... >>UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- Hazen Woods Austin, TX USA eCS and Win2k Pro what a combination - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Mon Jun 9 14:26:36 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Simon Wright) Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 15:26:36 +0200 (MDT) Subject: [pmmail-list] Incomplete email downloads Message-ID: <0055624490.00000JQP@server02.home.wright.org> >Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 11:48:30 +0100 >From: "Paul Hodges" > >On Mon, 09 Jun 2003 05:23:51 -0500, Larry Alkoff wrote: > >> Apparently when PMMail "deletes" an email from the server this does not physically take place >> until the entire run for the account completes sucessfully but I don't know if this behavior is from >> PMMail or RoadRunner. > >This behaviour is specified by the POP3 standard. It has been >suggested that PMMail be modified to download only a certain number >of messages before logging off the server and on again, but this is >not done at present (nor by any client I know of). Remote control is Fetchmail can be configured to do this, downloading a specified max. number of messages, logging off and allowing the POP server to delete these messages and then logging on again. There is a version on Hobbes. HTH. -- Simon Wright diver zero six at gmx dot net - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Mon Jun 9 15:34:08 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Steve Barber) Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 10:34:08 -0400 Subject: [pmmail-list] Incomplete email downloads In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 09 Jun 2003 05:23:51 -0500, Larry Alkoff wrote: >This is a problem because when I download again I get duplicates of all the >messages that were sucessfully downloaded from the previous run. > I used to have the same problem with my dial-up ISP. Very annoying. In every case, I could locate (by trial and error) the offending email (it was always a Spam) using the PMMail Remote function and delete it. Then all the mail would come in successfully. My "trial and error" approach was to open the Remote function, and then delete everything that smelled like Spam. That almost always fixed the problem. When it didn't, I'd download via remote small batches until I found the batch with the offending message. Then, invariably, it would be a Spam message that I'd missed in the initial pass. About 6 months ago, I switched to Earthlink cable and now use their Spam filtering. That seems to have completely eliminated the problem. I don't know if it's the ISP or the Spam filtering, but I'm guessing it's the Spam filtering, since all offending messages in the past turned out to be spam. Of course, it could be because, with my always on connection, I seldom download more than a few emails at a time, where with my dialup, if I missed a day or two, I could have to download hundreds of messages at once ... a sure way to have it blow up. SteveB - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Mon Jun 9 15:39:38 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Randy Fowler) Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 10:39:38 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [pmmail-list] Filter > Outgoing: prompt for From address? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 09 Jun 2003 00:16:21 -0400 (EDT), Randy Fowler wrote: >Is there a way to get PMMail/2 to allow entering a From address when >sending a msg from a certain account? I want to start using an Anti-Spam >technique via unique email addresses for each recipient. > >Perhaps an account with a filter that processes an Outgoing (Pre-Send) >REXX hook... which prompts for a From Address and changes it in the >outgoing message before it's sent?? I've never played around with REXX >hooks, but I've read over some in this list. I setup a test filter and found out that PMMail calls the external REXX cmd, providing the name of the outgoing email as an argument like this: --- Main called with 1 arguments: Argument 1 is Press Enter to continue --- However, PMMail inserts the return-path to the header after the cmd executes, like this: --- Return-path: --- Any way to stop this? Randy - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Mon Jun 9 20:33:54 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (PMMail 2000) Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 15:33:54 -0400 Subject: [pmmail-list] Folder count bug In-Reply-To: <200306081946.h58Jkp6E008960@ohsmtp03.ogw.rr.com> Message-ID: This is a known problem. It is repeatable and Peter hopes to have it fixed in the next build. FWIW, using the RMB context menu on the Trash folder to 'Empty Trash' clears the folder count here. Thanks, Brandon On Sun, 08 Jun 2003 15:27:39 -0400, Andrew Pitonyak wrote: >When I have an unread message in the trash that is marked important (folder is in read anyway), when I delete the message, it does not reduce >the unread message count for the folder. > >Has anyone else seen this behavior? It has been there for a long time and I only recently figured out why my unread folder count frequently became >off. > > >Andrew Pitonyak =============================== Brandon T. King brandonk@blueprintsoftwareworks.com www.blueprintsoftwareworks.com =============================== - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Tue Jun 10 00:10:56 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Marty Rimpau) Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 16:10:56 -0700 Subject: [pmmail-list] Incomplete email downloads In-Reply-To: <0042510090.0001VV1M@refety.qbss.com> Message-ID: Hi, speaking about incomplete downloads, first, is anybody using pm mail version 2717 with Norton 2001? The reason why I ask is because, in past versions of pm mail, when I would get prompted regarding a virus, I always would get knocked off the smtp server, so had to set Norton to automatically delete the offending attachment, and wonder if this has been addressed in this current version of pm mail, or, is this a problem with Norton definitions causing this, and if so, is there a way to correct this, because, it would be benificial to know, when I get a virus message, what type it is before I delete it. On Mon, 09 Jun 2003 11:48:30 +0100, Paul Hodges wrote: >On Mon, 09 Jun 2003 05:23:51 -0500, Larry Alkoff wrote: > >> Apparently when PMMail "deletes" an email from the server this does not physically take place >> until the entire run for the account completes sucessfully but I don't know if this behavior is from >> PMMail or RoadRunner. > >This behaviour is specified by the POP3 standard. It has been >suggested that PMMail be modified to download only a certain number >of messages before logging off the server and on again, but this is >not done at present (nor by any client I know of). Remote control is >the only helpful option until you can find out why the connections >are failing in the first place. > >Paul Hodges >QBS Software Ltd >- pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- >To POST to the list, send your message to: >pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com > >To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com >with the first line of the message body being... >UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Marty - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Tue Jun 10 03:28:34 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Wayne Dunham) Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 22:28:34 -0400 Subject: [pmmail-list] Incomplete email downloads In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 09 Jun 2003 16:10:56 -0700, Marty Rimpau wrote: >Hi, speaking about incomplete downloads, first, is anybody using pm >mail version 2717 with Norton 2001? The reason why I ask is because, >in past versions of pm mail, when I would get prompted regarding a >virus, I always would get knocked off the smtp server, so had to set >Norton to automatically delete the offending attachment, and wonder if >this has been addressed in this current version of pm mail, or, is this >a problem with Norton definitions causing this, and if so, is there a >way to correct this, because, it would be benificial to know, when I >get a virus message, what type it is before I delete it. Marty, I had that problem with 2001 Norton AV too, it was annoying whenever a spam message came in. I no longer have that problem with Norton AV 2002, it invariably can't quarantine the message and I have to delete it, but at least I have the chance to get all the pertinent info (i.e. the originating address, spoofed usually) before its deleted. Wayne Dunham waynedunham@email.com - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Mon Jun 9 16:45:53 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Mark Paulus) Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 09:45:53 -0600 Subject: [pmmail-list] PMMail Win and Spam In-Reply-To: <20030609053525.9002F4887B@mail1.panix.com> Message-ID: <0HG900MJWS3XJY@pmismtp01.wcomnet.com> I use spampal. WhiteList and BlackList configuration is very easy to manage. (And, it's also free!!) http://www.spampal.org On Sun, 08 Jun 2003 22:35:24 -0700, John Bridges wrote: >On Sun, 08 Jun 2003 20:37:36 +1000, Andrew Z wrote: > >>What Spam filtering software are people using in conjunction with the >>windoze version of PMMail? > >SpamAssassin (via SAPROXY, it's free, it's powerful, and it's painless). > >http://saproxy.bloomba.com/docs/install.html >- pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- >To POST to the list, send your message to: >pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com > >To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com >with the first line of the message body being... >UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Wed Jun 11 09:08:10 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Gene Hoffman) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 03:08:10 -0500 Subject: [pmmail-list] 100% CPU during spell check Message-ID: While checking the spelling of a new message, my CPU usage pegs at 100% until the spell check is complete. For even a short message of only two or three lines, with no attachment, it takes at least 5 seconds to complete the spell check. The spell check completes successfully, then the CPU usage drops back to very low levels. I'm using PMMail 2000 Pro, 2.20.2717, running under Windows XP Pro, SP1. Spell check under Windows 98 SE was almost instantaneous and, as I recall, didn't peg the CPU. I tried running the program under Win98 compatability, but see the same symptom. Have you seen this symptom? Any suggestions? Gene Hoffman - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Wed Jun 11 14:57:18 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Ronny Hippler) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 09:57:18 -0400 Subject: [pmmail-list] Hot keys on spell check? 2717 Message-ID: Hey, I just noticed that the hot keys are no longer underlined in the spell check dialog. Since non unique letters were chosen for "Change" and "Ignore", "n" & "g" I can never remember which is which. Any chance on getting this changed to something more logical like "c" and "i"? -- I am Clinton of Borg! Prepare to. . .Ooo! Nice skirt, baby! Ronny Hippler || Spartanburg SC http://www.vr5.dyndns.org:8008/ || ftp://ftp.vr5.dyndns.org:2112/ For PGP key email with "PGPKey" in the subject - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Wed Jun 11 15:53:36 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (PMMail 2000) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 10:53:36 -0400 Subject: [pmmail-list] Hot keys on spell check? 2717 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 09:57:18 -0400, Ronny Hippler wrote: >I just noticed that the hot keys are no longer underlined in the spell >check dialog. Since non unique letters were chosen for "Change" and "Ignore", >"n" & "g" I can never remember which is which. Any chance on getting this >changed to something more logical like "c" and "i"? This is a system level setting that you need to change in Windows XP. Open your Display properties by right clicking the desktop and selecting Properties. Go to the Appearance tab and select Effects in the lower right. The last option on the Effects dialog is to 'Hide underlined letters for keyboard navigation...', uncheck this box, click OK then Apply or OK on the Display properties dialog. You should now see the underlined hotkeys correctly. There is actually a bug in PMMail that forces them to be displayed regardless of the system settings in operating systems prior to XP which Peter will be working to correct. Thanks, =============================== Brandon T. King brandonk@blueprintsoftwareworks.com www.blueprintsoftwareworks.com =============================== - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Wed Jun 11 16:48:26 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Ronny Hippler) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 11:48:26 -0400 Subject: [pmmail-list] Hot keys on spell check? 2717 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 10:53:36 -0400, PMMail 2000 wrote: >This is a system level setting that you need to change in Windows XP. >the lower right. The last option on the Effects dialog is to 'Hide >underlined letters for keyboard navigation...', uncheck this box, click Hmm wonder how that got checked? -- And the only thing the Borg left was this Pentium. Ronny Hippler || Spartanburg SC http://www.vr5.dyndns.org:8008/ || ftp://ftp.vr5.dyndns.org:2112/ For PGP key email with "PGPKey" in the subject - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Wed Jun 11 17:54:53 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (James Moe) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 09:54:53 -0700 (MST) Subject: [pmmail-list] 100% CPU during spell check In-Reply-To: Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 03:08:10 -0500, Gene Hoffman wrote: >While checking the spelling of a new message, my CPU usage pegs at 100% >until the spell check is complete. For even a short message of only two >or three lines, with no attachment, it takes at least 5 seconds to >complete the spell check. The spell check completes successfully, then >the CPU usage drops back to very low levels. > Yes, this is typical of all versions and platforms. - -- jimoe at sohnen-moe dot com pgp/gpg public key: http://www.keyserver.net/en/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0 OS/2 for non-commercial use Comment: PGP 5.0 for OS/2 Charset: cp850 wj8DBQE+517dsxxMki0foKoRAsUAAKDT0ff/4v/KyuHixP2X0VF+G3kcOwCgpSGo ugNfCjJ6MTGDSIBpDaOFT8I= =60yg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Wed Jun 11 18:34:08 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Ralph Cohen) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 13:34:08 -0400 Subject: [pmmail-list] 100% CPU during spell check In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I had a similar problem under Win2k SP2 and I narrowed it down to a conflict with my anti-virus software (EZAntivirus). I "fixed" it by upgrading my anti-virus software which allowed me to exclude certain processes from monitoring. Ralph Cohen On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 03:08:10 -0500, Gene Hoffman wrote: >While checking the spelling of a new message, my CPU usage pegs at 100% >until the spell check is complete. For even a short message of only two >or three lines, with no attachment, it takes at least 5 seconds to >complete the spell check. The spell check completes successfully, then >the CPU usage drops back to very low levels. > >I'm using PMMail 2000 Pro, 2.20.2717, running under Windows XP Pro, SP1. >Spell check under Windows 98 SE was almost instantaneous and, as I recall, >didn't peg the CPU. > >I tried running the program under Win98 compatability, but see the same >symptom. > >Have you seen this symptom? Any suggestions? - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Thu Jun 12 16:21:44 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (L.Willms) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 17:21:44 +0200 (MES) Subject: [pmmail-list] Fwd: [VOICENWS] SW: PMView Pro (v3.0) is now available Message-ID: I'm sending out this again; please note that I had been cut off from the PMMail list since May 21, and only been readmitted today (there must have been some technical problem with my mailserver on May 21). -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Hello all, please see from the attached message that Peter Nielsen has released version 3 of his famous PMView program, both for OS/2 and Win32. This should allow him to continue to get PMMail' continued development on track again. Especially since "Tucows" has, another poster to "VOICENEWS" reported, awarded "5 cows" to PMview Pro. So please, Peter Nielsen, apply your genious to our baby here, PMMail! And both the Win32 AND the OS/2 versions! Yours L. Willms ==================BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE================== > From: "Mark Dodel" > Reply-to: peter@pmview.com > Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 16:51:40 -0300 > To: news@os2voice.org > Subject: [VOICENWS] SW: PMView Pro (v3.0) is now available > Message-ID: <200306021656.00000CHL@os2voice.org> > From: peterDESPAM@pmview.com This is to announce the availability of PMView Pro (v3.0), the latest version of our fast image viewer/converter software for OS/2 and Windows. PMView Pro has a total of 93 updates including more than 30 new features since the last public release (v2.32). Some of the highlights are: -EXIF support -Lossless JPEG rotate -Scripted batch conversion -Enhanced display resampling -New file copy/move confirmation dialog with thumbnails PMView Pro is shareware, with a registration fee of US$39.95. PMView Pro can be found at our web site: http://www.pmview.com If you have any questions or comments about PMView, feel free to send us a note at support@pmview.com Url: http://www.pmview.com Submitted with the form on http://www.os2world.com/submit_news.php ===================END FORWARDED MESSAGE=================== Lüko Willms ----------------------------------------------- Frankfurt/Main - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Thu Jun 12 16:17:05 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (L.Willms) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 17:17:05 +0200 (MES) Subject: [pmmail-list] PMMail2K - Nested folders rearranged after crash - how correct? In-Reply-To: <200306071642.h57GgLA22528@solomon.io.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 07 Jun 2003 11:42:20 -0500, Hazen Woods wrote: > Due to a crash some time back my folders within one of my Email > accounts is corrupted. As simply as I can state the problem suppose > over 10 folders most had subfolders. One of the folders - Folder A, > which had many subfolders, which I will call A1, A2, A3. . On of those > subfolders, Ax contained four subfolders, Ax1, Ax2, Ax3 and Ax4. > > After the crash, Folder A and the subfolders were arranged differently I remember the question being posed here some time ago, and this was probably from you, and I had replied to it. I guess that crash you are talking about was a system crash which brought some havoc to the directory structure. Actually you can safely move the directories again into the structure you want, in your PMMail version for Windows you can even do it within PMMail itself (drag'n'drop) and it should not disturb the workings of PMMail. PMMail identifies the folders by the numbers which are found in the FOLDER.INI, which are read in at program start. Yours, Lüko Willms ----------------------------------------------- Frankfurt/Main - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Thu Jun 12 16:20:09 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (L.Willms) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 17:20:09 +0200 (MES) Subject: [pmmail-list] OS/2 2.20.2382 Problem. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 21 May 2003 11:23:25 -0700 (PDT), Phil Kane wrote: > >Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 08:32:59 +0200 (MES) > >From: "L.Willms" > > > > Thank you for all the feedback. It helps me to improve the > >documentation and the program itself. > > Thank YOU for pointing me to the program. > > I had some problem installing it using bl_install.cmd. I'm sorry that I did not answer before, but my subscription to this list was cancelled on May 21, after I sent out my previous answer to this topic; probably my mail server was unreachable for some time and therefor the auto-prune of this list server cut me off. I will look into the problems described here and find a solution. Yours, Lüko Willms ----------------------------------------------- Frankfurt/Main - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Thu Jun 12 19:02:34 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Marty Rimpau) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:02:34 -0700 Subject: [pmmail-list] pm mail continues to crash upon sending mail Message-ID: Hi all, I'm using pm mail version 2717 with windows 98 se, and have noticed, especially since 2711, though it may have happened earlier, that, sometimes, when I go to send mail, with f5, that pm mail gives me an illegal operations message, and this is the last one I most recently got today. ********************************************************************** Date 06/12/2003 Time 09:59 PMMAILW caused an invalid page fault in module USER.EXE at 0003:0000292a. Registers: EAX=000116bf CS=17b7 EIP=0000292a EFLGS=00000202 EBX=00006158 SS=0e97 ESP=00008a70 EBP=bfc08ae6 ECX=00000001 DS=16bf ESI=00006158 FS=0000 EDX=81859ff8 ES=46ff EDI=0002b270 GS=0177 Bytes at CS:EIP: 67 8b 47 46 eb 02 8b c7 89 46 fe 66 ff 76 14 50 Stack dump: 8031217f 0000bfc0 3f740101 00000001 00136c2a 02820006 c1780000 00000001 00000000 17b746ff 453a4c6c 644c0f8f 17af2ae3 0000644c 24358af6 00000001 - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Fri Jun 13 04:29:04 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Hazen Woods) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 22:29:04 -0500 Subject: [pmmail-list] [real] PMMail2K - Nested folders rearranged after crash - how correct? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200306130329.h5D3TPb24555@solomon.io.com> Well=20I'll=20be=20dipped!!! Thank=20you=20so=20much.=20=20I=20am=20very=20amazed=20and=20surprised=20f= or=20at=20least=203 different=20things,=20listed=20in=20the=20order=20of=20magnitude: First=20that=20I=20never=20saw=20you=20earlier=20post Second=20that=20I=20never=20tried=20to=20move=20back=20by=20drag=20'n=20dr= op=20and=20 Third=20that=20it=20worked=20so=20easily. Again=20thank=20you=20very=20much. Hazen On=20Thu,=2012=20Jun=202003=2017:17:05=20+0200=20(MES),=20L.Willms=20wrote= : >>On=20Sat,=2007=20Jun=202003=2011:42:20=20-0500,=20Hazen=20Woods=20wrote:= >> >>>=20Due=20to=20a=20crash=20some=20time=20back=20my=20folders=20within=20= one=20of=20my=20Email >>>=20accounts=20is=20corrupted.=20As=20simply=20as=20I=20can=20state=20th= e=20problem=20suppose >>>=20over=2010=20folders=20most=20had=20subfolders.=20=20One=20of=20the=20= folders=20-=20=20Folder=20A, >>>=20which=20had=20many=20subfolders,=20which=20I=20will=20call=20A1,=20A= 2,=20A3.=20.=20On=20of=20those >>>=20subfolders,=20Ax=20contained=20four=20subfolders,=20Ax1,=20Ax2,=20Ax= 3=20and=20Ax4. >>>=20 >>>=20After=20the=20crash,=20Folder=20A=20and=20the=20subfolders=20were=20= arranged=20differently >> >>=20=20I=20remember=20the=20question=20being=20posed=20here=20some=20time= =20ago,=20and=20this=20was=20 >>probably=20from=20you,=20and=20I=20had=20replied=20to=20it.=20 >> >>=20=20I=20guess=20that=20crash=20you=20are=20talking=20about=20was=20a=20= system=20crash=20which=20 >>brought=20some=20havoc=20to=20the=20directory=20structure.=20 >> >>=20=20Actually=20you=20can=20safely=20move=20the=20directories=20again=20= into=20the=20structure=20 >>you=20want,=20in=20your=20PMMail=20version=20for=20Windows=20you=20can=20= even=20do=20it=20within=20 >>PMMail=20itself=20(drag'n'drop)=20and=20it=20should=20not=20disturb=20th= e=20workings=20of=20 >>PMMail.=20 >> >>=20=20PMMail=20identifies=20the=20folders=20by=20the=20numbers=20which=20= are=20found=20in=20the=20 >>FOLDER.INI,=20which=20are=20read=20in=20at=20program=20start.=20 >> >>Yours,=20 >>L=FCko=20Willms >>----------------------------------------------- >>Frankfurt/Main=20=20 >>-=20pmmail-list=20-=20The=20PMMail=20Discussion=20List=20---------------= ------------ >>To=20POST=20to=20the=20list,=20send=20your=20message=20to: >>pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com >> >>To=20UNSUBSCRIBE,=20send=20a=20message=20to=20mdaemon@bmtmicro.com=20 >>with=20the=20first=20line=20of=20the=20message=20body=20being... >>UNSUBSCRIBE=20pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- Hazen=20Woods Austin,=20TX=20USA eCS=20and=20Win2k=20Pro what=20a=20combination - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Fri Jun 13 18:08:04 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (James Moe) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 10:08:04 -0700 (MST) Subject: [pmmail-list] Wish List Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello, A couple of items that IMHO would be worthy additions: 1. GPG (gnu privacy guard). PGP works. Also the use of SSL certificates. (I do not know how feasible that is.) 2. IMAP as an alternative to POP3. My main complaints: 1. Fix the Trash cleanup. When PMMail (os/2 2.20.2382) closes and the "On shutdown remove messages..." option is selected, PMMail brings the system to a crawl while it rummages through the trash. It does this *after* the window has closed leaving me wondering why my system has frozen. 2. Fix the CPU intensive SpellChecker. Not only does it impact system performance, it does a weak job of spell checking. It does not understand plurals (!). It is case-sensitive ("blurb" is okay, "Blurb" is not). - -- jimoe at sohnen-moe dot com pgp/gpg public key: http://www.keyserver.net/en/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0 OS/2 for non-commercial use Comment: PGP 5.0 for OS/2 Charset: cp850 wj8DBQE+6gT0sxxMki0foKoRAk25AKCZWc0yFMmCldRrdE5fUAL7tQ1KbACfRxyE Z+OGzIhtzO3eAeQw5o6EQR4= =LFlh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Sat Jun 14 00:21:05 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Massimo @ eCS.it) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 01:21:05 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [pmmail-list] Wish List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030614012226-1817-7@bbs.quasarbbs.net> On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 10:08:04 -0700 (MST), James Moe wrote: >1. Fix the Trash cleanup. When PMMail (os/2 2.20.2382) closes and the "On shutdown >remove messages..." option is selected, PMMail brings the system to a crawl while it >rummages through the trash. It does this *after* the window has closed leaving me >wondering why my system has frozen. >2. Fix the CPU intensive SpellChecker. Not only does it impact system performance, it >does a weak job of spell checking. It does not understand plurals (!). It is >case-sensitive ("blurb" is okay, "Blurb" is not). about me first fof all to fix all the crashes with certain spam messages... bye Massimo S. - eCS Irc Network - irc.ecomstation.it 6667 - channels: #eCS #eCSita - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Sat Jun 14 16:40:31 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Utsav Ratti) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 11:40:31 -0400 Subject: [pmmail-list] PMMail and Windows power saving, screensavers In-Reply-To: <20030614012226-1817-7@bbs.quasarbbs.net> Message-ID: <200306141540.h5EFekW24616@virt7c.webintellects.com> Does anybody else have a problem with PMMail preventing the screensaver and power saving modes from functioning properly when the application is running? The screensaver doesn't come on for very long before it inexplicably turns off again. I can't be certain, but I suspect this happens when PMMail automatically "wakes up" to check for mail on the server. PMMail also does not allow me to suspend/hibernate my machine. I first have to close PMMail and only then can my machine properly use power saving modes. - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Tue Jun 17 13:23:56 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Marty Rimpau) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 05:23:56 -0700 Subject: [pmmail-list] how can I go to these web sites? Message-ID: Hi all, I subscribe to several shagmail publications, but am having a problem, because I want to go to the first two sites in the below message, but can't, because the raw html code is included in the urls, and I can't left mouse click with my mouse, and have it take me to the correct url, even an url at all, because I get an error message, about the page cannot be found, etcetera, and I want to go to these sites, but can't, so how do I get pm mail to display these urls correctly? I have never asked about this, since most of these sites are visual, but I think the first two urls have audio, and I appologize if the below message makes it seem like this is off topic, when in fact, I believe it is right on topic for the pm mail list. Thanks for helping in advance, and here's the below message. ~*~*~ THE WEBSITE REVIEW ~*~*~ ~*~*~ Tuesday, June 17, 2003 ~*~*~ THE WORST BEST MAN EVER! Check out this Budweiser short film dedicated to the worst best man in the world. You won't believe how many times this guy sticks his foot in his mouth. Watch it now by visiting: THE WORST BEST MAN EVER *-*-*-*-* THE ORIGINAL STAR WARS KID The Star Wars Kid is a 15-year-old from Quebec known only as Ghyslain. Back in November 2002, Ghyslain was goofing off at a school video studio and recorded himself fighting a mock battle with a broomstick lightsaber. Yes, we've all had our dorky, private moments, but this poor kid is living the nightmare of having his private dorkiness projected across the world to giggling Web users. His friends found the tape, and uploaded it to KaZaA as a joke on April 19. Within two weeks, someone had added full Star Wars special effects and noises to the tape, and the video was linked on gaming, technology, and Star Wars-related sites across the Internet. Watch the dorkiness unfold by visiting: The Original Star Wars Kid REDNECK DRIVER'S LICENSE Print this application out and give it to your redneck friends to see if they qualify. Questions include: Number of children living in household:___ Number of children living in shed: ___ Number of children that are yours: ___ Education: 1 2 3 4 (Circle highest grade completed) Take the quiz today by visiting: REDNECK DRIVER'S LICENSE *-*-*-*-* GAME OF THE WEEK - LOB-A-JOB Help your agencies job-seekers find their dream job by catapulting the candidate into the office building. Aim for the higher floors for better salaries. Be careful - other agencies will steal your workers if you miss you targets. Play today by visiting: LOB A JOB BOB FROM ACCOUNTING DRESS-UP PAGE! Dress up Bob by dragging items of eccentric clothing with your mouse, then click the RESET button and start all over again. Challenge yourself by seeing how long you can play before you get fired from your job. DRESS UP BOB Marty - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Tue Jun 17 13:36:29 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Dave) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 07:36:29 -0500 Subject: [pmmail-list] how can I go to these web sites? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 05:23:56 -0700, Marty Rimpau wrote: >Hi all, I subscribe to several shagmail publications, but am having a >problem, because I want to go to the first two sites in the below >message, but can't, because the raw html code is included in the urls, >and I can't left mouse click with my mouse, and have it take me to the >correct url, even an url at all, because I get an error message, about >the page cannot be found, etcetera, and I want to go to these sites, >but can't, so how do I get pm mail to display these urls correctly? I >have never asked about this, since most of these sites are visual, but >I think the first two urls have audio, and I appologize if the below >message makes it seem like this is off topic, when in fact, I believe >it is right on topic for the pm mail list. Thanks for helping in >advance, and here's the below message. Hi, What version of PMMail are you using? I am using 2.20.2717 for Windoze and clicking on the link seems to work here. When I hover over the Budwiser link, I get "Shortcut to http://www.budweiser.com/Bestman/videopopup2.html" in the status bar. I do see Message-ID: Hello, I am using 2717, but I am using a screen reader, and so the first part of the url is the raw html tag, but I did manage to go to the first url, just by arrowing past the raw html code to the url itself, and left clicking on it with my mouse keys, but this wouldn't have been necessarily apparent to me right off. Incidently, if you're using the latest version of winamp. version 2.92, the .asf file doesn't work, so you have to change the file extension to .asx, but then the audio breaks up, so I gave up. On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 07:36:29 -0500, Dave wrote: >On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 05:23:56 -0700, Marty Rimpau wrote: > >>Hi all, I subscribe to several shagmail publications, but am having a >>problem, because I want to go to the first two sites in the below >>message, but can't, because the raw html code is included in the urls, >>and I can't left mouse click with my mouse, and have it take me to the >>correct url, even an url at all, because I get an error message, about >>the page cannot be found, etcetera, and I want to go to these sites, >>but can't, so how do I get pm mail to display these urls correctly? I >>have never asked about this, since most of these sites are visual, but >>I think the first two urls have audio, and I appologize if the below >>message makes it seem like this is off topic, when in fact, I believe >>it is right on topic for the pm mail list. Thanks for helping in >>advance, and here's the below message. > >Hi, > >What version of PMMail are you using? I am using 2.20.2717 for Windoze >and clicking on the link seems to work here. When I hover over the >Budwiser link, I get "Shortcut to >http://www.budweiser.com/Bestman/videopopup2.html" in the status >bar. > >I do see quotes) is highlighted and clickable. > >A little more info on your part might help some of the wizards here >help you. :) > >Dave >- pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- >To POST to the list, send your message to: >pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com > >To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com >with the first line of the message body being... >UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Marty - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Tue Jun 17 17:38:58 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Marc Lewis) Date: 17 Jun 2003 10:38:58 -0600 Subject: [pmmail-list] PMMail/2+4OS2+PGP2.62=nul Message-ID: Hello all. Well I've come to a discovery/conclusion. PMMail/2+PGP2.62 is apparently incompatible with the 4OS2 v3.02b command processor. I've been using my PMMail/2 successfully with PGP2.62 for a good while now. I decided to install my registered copy of 4OS2 as my principal command processor and -*poof*- no more PGP. PMMail/2 doesn't even know its there, in spite of it being in the path. No security menus, no nothing... Has anyone else run into this? Did you find a work-around? Best regards, Marc -=- timEd/2 1.10.y2k+ - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Tue Jun 17 17:10:41 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Maynard Riley) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 11:10:41 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [pmmail-list] PMMail/2+4OS2+PGP2.62=nul In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2791.11.10.41.17.06.2003@localhost> Marc, Try leaving cmd.exe as the default command processor in config.sys; and for 4os2 command sessions, create a WPS object which I guess is a "program object" with the full-path-to-4os2.exe in the "Path" field; and "Parameters" of /k "path_to_startup_commands.cmd" I leave one [or more] of these 4os2 command windows open on the desktop all the time; but system processes get to use the cmd.exe processor which they expect. hth, -- Maynard - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Tue Jun 17 17:32:18 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (W. J. Myles) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 12:32:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [pmmail-list] PMMail and Windows power saving, screensavers In-Reply-To: <200306141540.h5EFekW24616@virt7c.webintellects.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 14 Jun 2003 11:40:31 -0400, Utsav Ratti wrote: > >The screensaver doesn't come on for very long before it inexplicably >turns off again. I can't be certain, but I suspect this happens when >PMMail automatically "wakes up" to check for mail on the server. > >PMMail also does not allow me to suspend/hibernate my machine. I >first have to close PMMail and only then can my machine properly use >power saving modes. What interval do you have PMMail set to check for new mail? Walter - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Tue Jun 17 19:21:54 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Dean Boulding) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 01:21:54 +0700 Subject: [pmmail-list] how can I go to these web sites? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <0HGN003JW12T8U@imsmta2.indosat.net.id> The link works fine here also. PMMail 2.20.2502 under Windows XP. No enhancements. Cheers, Dean On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 05:23:56 -0700, Marty Rimpau wrote: |Hi all, I subscribe to several shagmail publications, but am having a |problem, because I want to go to the first two sites in the below |message, but can't, because the raw html code is included in the urls, |and I can't left mouse click with my mouse, and have it take me to the |correct url, even an url at all, because I get an error message, about |the page cannot be found, etcetera, and I want to go to these sites, |but can't, so how do I get pm mail to display these urls correctly? I |have never asked about this, since most of these sites are visual, but |I think the first two urls have audio, and I appologize if the below |message makes it seem like this is off topic, when in fact, I believe |it is right on topic for the pm mail list. Thanks for helping in |advance, and here's the below message. | |~*~*~ THE WEBSITE REVIEW ~*~*~ |~*~*~ Tuesday, June 17, 2003 ~*~*~ | | |THE WORST BEST MAN EVER! | |Check out this Budweiser short film dedicated to the worst |best man in the world. You won't believe how many times |this guy sticks his foot in his mouth. Watch it now by |visiting: |THE WORST BEST MAN EVER | | | *-*-*-*-* | | |THE ORIGINAL STAR WARS KID | |The Star Wars Kid is a 15-year-old from Quebec known only as |Ghyslain. Back in November 2002, Ghyslain was goofing |off at a school video studio and recorded himself fighting a |mock battle with a broomstick lightsaber. | |Yes, we've all had our dorky, private moments, but this poor |kid is living the nightmare of having his private dorkiness |projected across the world to giggling Web users. His friends |found the tape, and uploaded it to KaZaA as a joke on April 19. |Within two weeks, someone had added full Star Wars special |effects and noises to the tape, and the video was linked on |gaming, technology, and Star Wars-related sites across the |Internet. Watch the dorkiness unfold by visiting: | |The Original Star Wars Kid | | | | |REDNECK DRIVER'S LICENSE | |Print this application out and give it to your redneck friends |to see if they qualify. Questions include: |Number of children living in household:___ |Number of children living in shed: ___ |Number of children that are yours: ___ |Education: 1 2 3 4 (Circle highest grade completed) |Take the quiz today by visiting: | |REDNECK DRIVER'S LICENSE | | | | *-*-*-*-* | | |GAME OF THE WEEK - LOB-A-JOB | |Help your agencies job-seekers find their dream job by |catapulting the candidate into the office building. Aim |for the higher floors for better salaries. Be careful - |other agencies will steal your workers if you miss you |targets. Play today by visiting: | |LOB A JOB | | | |BOB FROM ACCOUNTING DRESS-UP PAGE! | |Dress up Bob by dragging items of eccentric clothing with |your mouse, then click the RESET button and start all over |again. Challenge yourself by seeing how long you can play |before you get fired from your job. | |DRESS UP BOB | | |Marty |- pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- |To POST to the list, send your message to: |pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com | |To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com |with the first line of the message body being... |UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com |--------------------------------------------------------------------- | Dean Boulding, Jennifer Crocker, and kids Jakarta Indonesia - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Wed Jun 18 06:24:25 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Stephen Eickhoff) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 01:24:25 -0400 Subject: [pmmail-list] how can I go to these web sites? In-Reply-To: <0HGN003JW12T8U@imsmta2.indosat.net.id> Message-ID: >On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 05:23:56 -0700, Marty Rimpau wrote: > >|Hi all, I subscribe to several shagmail publications, but am having a >|problem, because I want to go to the first two sites in the below >|message, but can't, because the raw html code is included in the urls, >|and I can't left mouse click with my mouse, and have it take me to the >|correct url, even an url at all, because I get an error message, about >|the page cannot be found, etcetera, and I want to go to these sites, >|but can't, so how do I get pm mail to display these urls correctly? Maybe I'm wrong and I need to go read some RFCs, but this does not appear to be a properly formatted email. I believe that if they want to include HTML tags, they must include a mime type of text/html and provide first plaintext, then a properly formatted HTML section. A properly formatted HTML document must include an HTML and a DOCTYPE tag, neither of which this document has. The schmo at Budweiser who threw this together- probably just by pasting crap into Outlook - should be sent back to Marketing where they belong and a real IT guy or gal who actual knows and understands HTML be given a job in their place. ---------------------------------- Stephen Eickhoff operagost@email.com ---------------------------------- - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Wed Jun 18 06:54:42 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Marc Lewis) Date: 17 Jun 2003 23:54:42 -0600 Subject: [pmmail-list] PMMail/2+4OS2+PGP2.62 ->nul References: <2791.11.10.41.17.06.2003@localhost> Message-ID: Hello All. nul > MR> Try leaving cmd.exe as the default command processor in config.sys; MR> and for 4os2 command sessions, create a WPS object which I guess is MR> a "program object" with the full-path-to-4os2.exe in the "Path" MR> field; MR> and "Parameters" of /k "path_to_startup_commands.cmd" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Can you explain this part a little better? Best regards, Marc -+- timEd/2 1.10.y2k+ .. Self-respect: The secure feeling that no one, as yet, is suspicious. - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Wed Jun 18 12:56:02 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Maynard Riley) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 06:56:02 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [pmmail-list] PMMail/2+4OS2+PGP2.62 ->nul In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2801.06.56.02.18.06.2003@localhost> On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 23:54:42 -0600, Marc Lewis wrote: > MR> and "Parameters" of /k "path_to_startup_commands.cmd" > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Can you explain this part a little better? It's optional. See the online help for cmd.exe You can use it to set different environment variables for different program objects. -- Maynard - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Wed Jun 18 16:37:11 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Phil Kane) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 08:37:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [pmmail-list] PMMail/2+4OS2+PGP2.62 Message-ID: >Date: 17 Jun 2003 10:38:58 -0600 >From: Marc.Lewis@net396.fidonet.org (Marc Lewis) >Well I've come to a discovery/conclusion. PMMail/2+PGP2.62 is >apparently incompatible with the 4OS2 v3.02b command processor. I've >been using my PMMail/2 successfully with PGP2.62 for a good while now. >I decided to install my registered copy of 4OS2 as my principal >command processor and -*poof*- no more PGP. PMMail/2 doesn't even >know its there, in spite of it being in the path. No security menus, >no nothing... >Has anyone else run into this? Did you find a work-around? I use all three together and there's no problem. My OS is eComStation 1.1 (the OEM version of OS/2 MCP 2). Millard's suggestion of keeping CMD.EXE as the default command processor is technically correct but unusable here because so many of my batch files called by applications need the 4OS2 command set. The problem may be that you are not using the latest versions of 4OS2 and PGP. The latest version of 4OS2 is 3.04A and the good news (sort of) is that it's open source, free download. The bad news is that Rex Conn (the author of the program and the new owner of JP Soft) will not be issuing any later versions. The latest version of PGP for OS/2 is 5.0 GA. This, too, is a free download. And the latest version (or at least the latest one that I use) of PMMail/2 is 2.20.2381. -- Phil Kane From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Wed Jun 18 18:27:30 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Marc Lewis) Date: 18 Jun 2003 11:27:30 -0600 Subject: [pmmail-list] PMMail/2+4OS2+PGP2.62nul Message-ID: * Original message posted in: 4DOS. * Crossposted in: PMMAIL, COMP-OS2-MISC. Hello All. <> ML> I've been using my PMMail/2 successfully with PGP2.62 for a good ML> while now. I decided to install my registered copy of 4OS2 as my ML> principal command processor and -*poof*- no more PGP. PMMail/2 ML> doesn't even know its there, in spite of it being in the path. No ML> security menus, no nothing... ML> Has anyone else run into this? Did you find a work-around? I have located the problem. The PGP environment variable "SET PGPPATH=C:\PGP262" went missing from my config.sys. Once restored, PMMail/2+PGP are working to gether just fine with 4OS2 specified as the principal command processor. Best regards, Marc .. Useless Invention: Remote control for a Watchman. - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Wed Jun 18 22:00:26 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Steve Wendt) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 14:00:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [pmmail-list] PMMail/2+4OS2+PGP2.62 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030618135912.P83662-100000@fingers.shocking.com> On Wed, 18 Jun 2003, Phil Kane wrote: > The latest version of 4OS2 is 3.04A and the good news (sort of) is > that it's open source, free download. The bad news is that Rex Conn > (the author of the program and the new owner of JP Soft) will not be > issuing any later versions. You will probably see a 3.04C version soon. No 3.04 version was done by JP Soft (and all of a sudden they have issues with it being called open source, so 3.04C won't say that any more). - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Thu Jun 19 13:01:41 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Robert Gammon) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 07:01:41 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [pmmail-list] [eCS] PMMail/2 in eCS 1.1 = sig problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: A few weeks ago, I posted a note indicating that PMMail/2 was not putting my sigs on outgoing mail. After visiting Account Settings and editing each sig (made no changes, just opened, then closed the sig), all appeared to be working fine. A couple of weeks go by and I need to reboot due to some configuration changes I had made (fine tuning stuff). Lo and Behold, sigs are no longer on outgoing mail!!! Once again, I vist Account Settings and touch each of the sigs to get them working again. Needless to say, this will make the reboot process quite painful!!! - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Thu Jun 19 14:21:20 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (John Angelico) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 23:21:20 +1000 (AEST) Subject: [pmmail-list] OS/2 version of PMMail Message-ID: <0084122750.000002PC@ollie> On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 09:01:43 -0400, brandonk@blueprintsoftwareworks.com wrote: [Quote] Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 08:37:11 -0700 (PDT) From: "Phil Kane" Subject: Re: [pmmail-list] PMMail/2+4OS2+PGP2.62 [chomp] The latest version of 4OS2 is 3.04A and the good news (sort of) is that it's open source, free download. The bad news is that Rex Conn (the author of the program and the new owner of JP Soft) will not be issuing any later versions. The latest version of PGP for OS/2 is 5.0 GA. This, too, is a free download. And the latest version (or at least the latest one that I use) of PMMail/2 is 2.20.2381. [/Quote] Technically correct but there is actually 2.20.2382 which I use. However, I note that you found the source of the saucy behaviour, already. Best regards John Angelico OS/2 SIG os2@melbpc.org.au or talldad@kepl.com.au _______________________________________ PMTagline v1.50 - Copyright, 1996-1997, Stephen Berg and John Angelico ... Reports of OS/2's demise are -still- greatly exaggerated. - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Sun Jun 22 05:35:22 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Charles Sardeson) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 00:35:22 -0400 Subject: [pmmail-list] Question Message-ID: <20030622043522.FJRM10267.mta6.adelphia.net@tower500.frbgva.adelphia.net> List, I "just" installed 2000 over 98 (on an NT4 machine), and although all the messages appear still to be in the folders from the previous installation, and although the folder list is displayed intact, none of the messages recieved prior to the upgrade appears in message-list window. Does anyone know how I can reestablish the connection to the old messages? I tried to reindex one of the more-or-less expendable folders, and that didn't do it. Thanks, Chuck Sardeson - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Sun Jun 22 17:37:25 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Ronny Hippler) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 12:37:25 -0400 Subject: [pmmail-list] Question In-Reply-To: <20030622043522.FJRM10267.mta6.adelphia.net@tower500.frbgva.adelphia.net> Message-ID: On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 00:35:22 -0400, Charles Sardeson wrote: >Does anyone know how I can reestablish the connection to the old >messages? I tried to reindex one of the more-or-less expendable try deleting the *.uct and/or *.bag files in the folder then reindex. Back up first of course.4 -- I am Pentium of Borg. You will be approximated. Ronny Hippler || Spartanburg SC http://www.vr5.dyndns.org:8008/ || ftp://ftp.vr5.dyndns.org:2112/ For PGP key email with "PGPKey" in the subject - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Tue Jun 24 13:51:22 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Hazen Woods) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 07:51:22 -0500 Subject: [pmmail-list] PMMail .2717 hangs computer Message-ID: <200306241251.h5OCpPc14387@david.io.com> I recently installed the v. 2.20.2717. Since then notice two annoying things. First when click on URL in the past would bring almost instantaneous response and effort to connect. Now, it can take up to 4 or 5 seconds for this to occur. Often now it is necessary to click on the URL a second or third time before any response. The second is really a serious problem and first began with the previous install which was probably v. 2.20.2581. With greater and greater frequency PMMail will hang the system. BY this I mean the only way to go forward is to hit the reboot button on the machine. C-A-D does not work. 10 - 15 minutes does not help. Keyboard seems locked and mouse for sure is locked. Now I hate to do this because of the tendency to shift blame, but this has also come on the heels of an ill-fated effort to load Norton SYstemWorks Pro 2003 on my system, which is Win2000 Pro. In trying to troubleshoot, one of my first questions is whether anyone else had problem with v. 2581 hanging the system and likewise with v. 2717? TIA Hazen Woods Austin, TX USA eCS and Win2k Pro what a combination - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Tue Jun 24 13:58:46 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Oberon) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 07:58:46 -0500 Subject: [pmmail-list] PMMail .2717 hangs computer In-Reply-To: <200306241251.h5OCpPc14387@david.io.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 07:51:22 -0500, Hazen Woods wrote: >In trying to troubleshoot, one of my first questions is whether anyone >else had problem with v. 2581 hanging the system and likewise with v. >2717? Win2KPro here, too, and in neither case have I had such a problem. Hope this helps. -- Stress is when you wake up screaming & you realize you haven't fallen asleep yet. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Potts ARS KM0M Waverly, Iowa E-mail is like a postcard. Use an envelope -- use PGP for all e-mail. To receive my PGP key, just send e-mail with "PGPKey" in the subject field. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Tue Jun 24 14:01:30 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Sorin Srbu) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 15:01:30 +0200 Subject: [pmmail-list] PMMail .2717 hangs computer In-Reply-To: <200306241251.h5OCpPc14387@david.io.com> Message-ID: <20030624125725.827B946FD@sponsa.its.uu.se> On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 07:51:22 -0500, Hazen Woods wrote: >I recently installed the v. 2.20.2717. Since then notice two annoying >things. First when click on URL in the past would bring almost >instantaneous response and effort to connect. Now, it can take up to 4 >or 5 seconds for this to occur. Often now it is necessary to click on >the URL a second or third time before any response. > >The second is really a serious problem and first began with the >previous install which was probably v. 2.20.2581. With greater and >greater frequency >PMMail will hang the system. BY this I mean the only way to go forward >is to hit the reboot button on the machine. C-A-D does not work. 10 - >15 minutes does not help. Keyboard seems locked and mouse for sure is >locked. > >Now I hate to do this because of the tendency to shift blame, but this >has also come on the heels of an ill-fated effort to load Norton >SYstemWorks Pro 2003 on my system, which is Win2000 Pro. > >In trying to troubleshoot, one of my first questions is whether anyone >else had problem with v. 2581 hanging the system and likewise with v. >2717? Had it regularly act up like above before, but almost never after installing PMM v2.20.2717. I still see the problem more or less regularly though, mostly when I get the newsletter from Toms Hardware Guide and click the links to the articles. Otherwise almost never. Four or five secnds isn't that big a deal. 8-) I've seen the delay being up to 20-30 secs, but it more or less always opens the link in IE as it should, despite the delay. BTW, I run WinXP Pro English SP1 and all patches. BW, Sorin # Sorin Srbu, Systems Engineer Web: http://www.farmfak.uu.se/organisk/ # Dept of Medicinal Chemistry, Phone: +46 (0)18-4714482 >> 5 signals >> GSM # Div of Org Pharm Chem, Mobile Phone: +46 (0)701-718023 # BMC, Box 574, Uppsala University Fax: +46 (0)18-4714474 # SE-751 23 Uppsala, Sweden Visit: BMC, Husargatan 3, D5:512b # # Public PGP key available on request. - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Tue Jun 24 18:28:37 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Kari Suomela) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 12:28:37 -0500 Subject: [pmmail-list] PMMail .2717 hangs computer In-Reply-To: <200306241251.h5OCpPc14387@david.io.com> Message-ID: <1056457887@ksbase> Tuesday June 24 2003 07:51, Hazen Woods wrote to BSW's "official pmmail-list": HW> Now I hate to do this because of the tendency to shift blame, but HW> this HW> has also come on the heels of an ill-fated effort to load Norton HW> SYstemWorks Pro 2003 on my system, which is Win2000 Pro. System hang is caused by the memory leak in previous versions of PMMail. Uninstall PMMail. Reinstall Norton correctly and then reinstall PMMail. KS KARICO Business Services Toronto, ON Canada http://www.karico.ca Get The Pocket Pro now!: http://www.pocketproshop.com - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Tue Jun 24 23:22:12 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Xav) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 23:22:12 +0100 Subject: [pmmail-list] Problem sending mail Message-ID: Hello, Win2k, PMMail (latest). I moved a friend's installation to a new hard drive. Then, although she could receive, she could not send. It hung on "waiting for server acceptance" before generating a "socket error". The internet conncetion was fine and the mail server could be pinged. Creating new accounts and transferring the messages there seemed to work BUT trying to send some new messages to addressees failed (although sending to my address worked). I expect another howl of anguish from her tomorrow :-(( Any idea as to the cause and/or solution. I remember reading a few messages early last year about a problem like this, but couldn't remember or find any solution. Regards, Xav. - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Wed Jun 25 01:50:18 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Stephen Eickhoff) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 20:50:18 -0400 Subject: [pmmail-list] Problem sending mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 23:22:12 +0100, Xav wrote: >Hello, > >Win2k, PMMail (latest). > >I moved a friend's installation to a new hard drive. Then, although >she could receive, she could not send. It hung on "waiting for server >acceptance" before generating a "socket error". The internet conncetion >was fine and the mail server could be pinged. Creating new accounts >and transferring the messages there seemed to work BUT trying to send >some new messages to addressees failed (although sending to my address >worked). I expect another howl of anguish from her tomorrow :-(( > >Any idea as to the cause and/or solution. I remember reading a few >messages early last year about a problem like this, but couldn't >remember or find any solution. You didn't mention whether she has DSL with PPPoE, but if she does, then the MTU on her PC may have changed for some reason. Use this utility to fix the MaxMTU. http://www.dslreports.com/front/drtcp.html I'm assuming when you say "hard drive" that you really mean "hard drive" and not a whole new system unit. In that case, all kinds of settings could have changed in the move to the new hardware. ---------------------------------- Stephen Eickhoff operagost@email.com ---------------------------------- - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Wed Jun 25 03:23:24 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Dr. Jeffrey Race) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 09:23:24 +0700 Subject: [pmmail-list] Problem sending mail Message-ID: On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 20:50:18 -0400, Stephen Eickhoff wrote: > she could not send. It hung on "waiting for server >acceptance" before generating a "socket error". You need to differentiate whether problem is in her mail client or at the mail server; also you need a better diagnostic message. She can do this by telnetting to the SMTP server from a command prompt and observing the transaction record. Tell your friend how to do this and ask for a screen capture of the session, if you know how to do. If not, let us know and I can post to the list instructions how to do this. Jeffrey Race - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Wed Jun 25 04:49:06 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Hazen Woods) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 22:49:06 -0500 Subject: [pmmail-list] [real] PMMail .2717 hangs computer In-Reply-To: <1056457887@ksbase> Message-ID: <200306250349.h5P3n9p29971@solomon.io.com> On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 12:28:37 -0500, Kari Suomela wrote: >> >>Tuesday June 24 2003 07:51, Hazen Woods wrote to BSW's "official >>pmmail-list": >> >> >> HW> Now I hate to do this because of the tendency to shift blame, but >> HW> this >> HW> has also come on the heels of an ill-fated effort to load Norton >> HW> SYstemWorks Pro 2003 on my system, which is Win2000 Pro. >> >>System hang is caused by the memory leak in previous versions of >>PMMail. >>Uninstall PMMail. Reinstall Norton correctly and then reinstall PMMail. > Thanks to Robert, Sorin and Kari for your replies. Taking Kari's suggestion, I found more than one instance of pmmailw.exe on the system. Vague recollection that I installed both Pro and Std when I first loaded Windows and, obviously didn't get it all removed. Hopefully it is better now. We will see if more stable at this point. Kari, I may wait a while before reinstalling SystemWorks. For one reason it destabilized my computer. For another their web pages indicate at one place that SystemWorks 2003 Pro is NOT compatible with Win2K Pro. I need to check with Norton to see what they say about that. Again thanks, to you all. Hazen Woods Austin, TX USA eCS and Win2k Pro what a combination - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Wed Jun 25 08:04:27 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Xav) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 08:04:27 +0100 Subject: [pmmail-list] Problem sending mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 09:23:24 +0700, Dr. Jeffrey Race wrote: >You need to differentiate whether problem is in her mail client or at >the mail server; also you need a better diagnostic message. > >She can do this by telnetting to the SMTP server from a command prompt >and observing the transaction record. Tell your friend how to do this >and ask for a screen capture of the session, if you know how to do. If >not, let us know and I can post to the list instructions how to do this. I'd appreciate the instructions :-)) The smtp mail server has been having problems. What I can't understand is the success sending to some mail addresses and then others getting the error - this after creating new accounts. Regards, Xav. - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Wed Jun 25 08:13:19 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Xav) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 08:13:19 +0100 Subject: [pmmail-list] Problem sending mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 20:50:18 -0400, Stephen Eickhoff wrote: >You didn't mention whether she has DSL with PPPoE, but if she does, then the >MTU on her PC may have changed for some reason. Use this utility to fix the >MaxMTU. In the UK it is PPPoA that is used. But I will check the MTU. >I'm assuming when you say "hard drive" that you really mean "hard drive" and >not a whole new system unit. In that case, all kinds of settings could have >changed in the move to the new hardware. It is a new system unit with the OS installed from scratch. PMMail was then installed and the old messages/stuff from \Tools copied over the top. Eveeything works fine except for sending. No problem whatsoever on receiving email. No problems web surfing either. As mentioned in the other message, creating new accounts and transferring the messages to these using the same settings in "Properties" allows the sending of newly created messages. Old unsent messages still cause the problem ! Indeed, using a freshly typed in message with a freshly typed in address even exhibited the problem. But I was still able to send a message to my own address. Weird. I think I'll probably rip it out and install from scratch again - is there any way of just importing messages from the old drive ? Regards, Xav - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Wed Jun 25 15:37:33 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Dr. Jeffrey Race) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 21:37:33 +0700 Subject: [pmmail-list] Problem sending mail Message-ID: On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 08:04:27 +0100, Xav wrote: >I'd appreciate the instructions :-)) The smtp mail server has been >having problems. What I can't understand is the success sending to >some mail addresses and then others getting the error - this after >creating new accounts. OK Xav this is the protocol YOU SEND FROM PROMPT -> [E:\]telnet CLASSIC.ASIANET.CCO.TH 25 {insert name or IP address of your SMTP server} YOU RECEIVE ACK <- 220 mx.asianet.co.th ESMTP qmaill YIT/20030523 YOU SEND -> HELO JRACE@ATTGLOBAL.NET {use sending e-mail address} YOU RECEIVE 250 "OK TO SEND"<- 250 mx.asianet.co.th YOU SEND -> MAIL FROM: YOU RECEIVE 250 "OK TO SEND"<- 250 ok YOU SEND -> rcpt to: {destination inside <>) YOU RECEIVE 250 "OK TO SEND"<- 250 ok YOU SEND -> data {This means "data follows"} YOU RECEIVE 354 "OK TO DATA"<- 354 go ahead YOU SEND MSG TXT -> test YOU TERMINATE WITH . CRLF -> . YOU RECEIVE 250 "OK ACK MSG"<- 250 ok 1056550716 qp 7338 YOU CLOSE SESSION -> QUIT {remote server closes session} Watch what error messages come back. A full listing is in RFC2821 section 4.2.3 See also RFC 1893. Quick summary courtesy Alan Brown: First digit should match first digit of actual SMTP code. MSSC - Enhanced Code Meaning 2.x.x Success 4.x.x Persistent Transient Failure 5.x.x Permanent Failure x.0.x Other/Undefined x.1.x Addressing Status x.2.x Mailbox Status x.3.x Mailsystem Status x.4.x Network/Routing Status x.5.x Delivery Protocol Status x.6.x Content/Media Status x.7.x Security/Policy Status x.0.0 Other (e.g. 501 5.0.0 Bad HELO parameter syntax) x.1.0 Other Address Status x.1.1 Bad Destination Mailbox x.1.2 Bad Destination System x.1.3 Bad Destination Syntax x.1.4 Ambiguous Address x.1.5 Destination Valid x.1.6 Moved, No Forwarding Address x.1.7 Bad Sender Syntax x.1.8 Bad Sender System x.2.0 Other Mailbox Status x.2.1 Mailbox Disabled x.2.2 Mailbox Full x.2.3 Message Too Long x.2.4 Relay Expansion Problem x.3.0 System Status x.3.1 System Full x.3.2 System Not Accepting Network Messages x.3.3 System Not Capable of Feature x.3.4 Message Too Long x.3.5 System Configuration Error x.4.0 Network/Routing Problem x.4.1 No Answer from Host x.4.2 Bad Connection x.4.3 Directory Server Failed x.4.4 Unable to Route x.4.5 Mailsystem Congestion x.4.6 Routing Loop Detected x.4.7 Delivery Time Expired x.5.0 Protocol Status x.5.1 Invalid Command x.5.2 Syntax Error x.5.3 Too Many Recipients x.5.4 Invalid Command Arguments x.5.5 Wrong Protocol Version x.6.0 Media Error / Bad Content x.6.1 Media Not Supported x.6.2 Required Conversion is Prohibited / Bad Address use after end of DATA x.6.3 Required Conversion is Not Supported x.6.4 Lossy Conversion Performed x.6.5 Conversion Failed x.7.0 Security Status / Site Policy x.7.1 Refused, Delivery Not Authorized x.7.2 Refused, Relaying/Expansion Prohibited x.7.3 Conversion Not Possible x.7.4 Conversion Not Supported x.7.5 Cryptographic Failure x.7.7 Message Integrity Failure/ including bad headers. Codes (SMTP only uses a few 2xx's 4xx's and 5xx's - see RFC2821 plus 521) 0xx - 1xx - Positive / Informational 2xx - Success 3xx - Intermediate / Redirection 4xx - Temporary Negative or Client Error (SMTP, HTTP ..) 4xx - Failed, with connection closed (SNPP) 5xx - Permanent Negative or Server Error (SMTP, HTTP ..) 5xx - Failed, but continue session (SNPP especially) 6xx - 7xx - Unsuccessful two-way transaction 8xx - Successful two-way transaction 9xx - Queued two-way tranaction x0x - Syntax or Misc x1x - Information or Group x2x - Connection or Item x3x - Authentication or Distribution x4x - Unspecified or Accept x5x - Filesystem x6x - Action Taken, Pending further action(s) / Queued x7x - Awaiting Closure x8x - Completed or Nonstandard x9x - Debugging Let us know what you discover Jeffrey Race - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Thu Jun 26 07:44:28 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Xav) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 07:44:28 +0100 Subject: [pmmail-list] Problem sending mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 21:37:33 +0700, Dr. Jeffrey Race wrote: >OK Xav this is the protocol Thanks...I had a very brief go last night but....the messages I sent went through :-)) However, then some failed but it was too late to test more. Will do that tomorrow. Regards, Xav. - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Thu Jun 26 07:51:15 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Dr. Jeffrey Race) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 13:51:15 +0700 Subject: [pmmail-list] Problem sending mail Message-ID: On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 07:44:28 +0100, Xav wrote: >Thanks...I had a very brief go last night but....the messages I sent >went through :-)) However, then some failed but it was too late to >test more. Will do that tomorrow. Well do some more testing, but if you go thru Telnet but fail from the mail client, it may be the mail client configuration. That is the point of doing this test. Basically the mail client is the GUI front end to a Telnet session. Jeffrey Race - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Thu Jun 26 10:08:45 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Parag Mehta) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 14:58:45 +0550 Subject: [pmmail-list] Global Sort order Message-ID: Hi All Is there any way to have sort order defined globally for a particular account ? if not then globally for all the accounts in PMMail ? Thanks in advance Parag - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Thu Jun 26 11:54:50 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Michael Lueck) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 06:54:50 -0400 Subject: [pmmail-list] [real] PMMail .2717 hangs computer In-Reply-To: <200306250349.h5P3n9p29971@solomon.io.com> Message-ID: <200306261054.FAA19569@turqua.propagation.net> On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 22:49:06 -0500, Hazen Woods wrote: >I need to check with Norton to see what they say about >that. "We are sorry but we are only able to assist you with major email programs such as OutLook and Eudora. Please try one of these programs for better results." Michael - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Thu Jun 26 12:42:31 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Maynard Riley) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 06:42:31 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [pmmail-list] Problem sending mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2853.06.42.32.26.06.2003@localhost> after the telnet test, you can log the mail client transaction with iptrace/ipformat, if it runs from or through a warp system. -- Maynard - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Thu Jun 26 13:05:53 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Hazen Woods) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 07:05:53 -0500 Subject: [pmmail-list] [real] PMMail .2717 hangs computer In-Reply-To: <200306261054.FAA19569@turqua.propagation.net> Message-ID: <200306261205.h5QC5v617705@solomon.io.com> On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 06:54:50 -0400, Michael Lueck wrote: >>On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 22:49:06 -0500, Hazen Woods wrote: >> >>>I need to check with Norton to see what they say about >>>that. >> >>"We are sorry but we are only able to assist you with major email programs such >>as OutLook and Eudora. Please try one of these programs for better results." >> >> And think of what they would say if I told them I had Warp 4.0 and eCS on board! Hazen Woods Austin, TX USA eCS and Win2k Pro what a combination - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Thu Jun 26 17:15:14 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Xav) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 17:15:14 +0100 Subject: [pmmail-list] Problem sending mail In-Reply-To: <2853.06.42.32.26.06.2003@localhost> Message-ID: On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 06:42:31 -0500 (CDT), Maynard Riley wrote: > >after the telnet test, you can log the mail client transaction with >iptrace/ipformat, if it runs from or through a warp system. No, this is a windows system it is running on. The client is configured exactly as before but I find it weird that some messages are sent without problem - literally gone on the "send" click, whereas others get the "waiting for server acceptance" then error message and stuck in the outbox. I may try a full uninstall and re-install or go back a version or two .............. anyone know if BSW have an ftp server with old versions ? Regards, Xav. - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Thu Jun 26 18:04:12 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Dr. Jeffrey Race) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 00:04:12 +0700 Subject: [pmmail-list] Problem sending mail Message-ID: On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 17:15:14 +0100, Xav wrote: >>after the telnet test, you can log the mail client transaction with >>iptrace/ipformat, if it runs from or through a warp system. > >No, this is a windows system it is running on. You can use TCPVIEW to log the session in Windows. The README: ------------------------------------------------------------------ TCP Viewer Windows Version Version 2.40 ------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------ CONTENTS ------------------------------------------------------------------ INTRODUCTION DETAILS COMMAND-LINE PARAMETERS REQUIREMENTS REGISTERING DISTRIBUTING CONTACT INFORMATION ------------------------------------------------------------------ INTRODUCTION ------------------------------------------------------------------ TCP Viewer captures and displays all data that is transferred between client processes and a server process communicating through TCP/IP. The processes can be running on the same machine or different machines located anywhere on a network or the Internet. TCP Viewer can run on a machine different than the machine(s) that the processes are running on. An example of a client and server is a web browser and web server. TCP Viewer can be used by a developer to debug protocol problems or by anyone who is curious about what data is passed between processes. ------------------------------------------------------------------ DETAILS ------------------------------------------------------------------ TCP Viewer is an Internet Relay. It routes data from client processes to a server process and vice-versa. The clients and server indirectly communicate with each other through TCP Viewer. The clients and server are unaware that they are directly communicating with TCP Viewer. TCP Viewer captures and displays the transferred data. A server runs on a machine, that has an IP address, at a predetermined port number. For a client to connect to a server, it must know the name or IP address of the machine that the server is running on, and which port number it has established. The following are instructions, with an example of how to use TCP Viewer with a web browser and web server. 1. Provide TCP Viewer with the name or IP address of the machine that the server is running on (Remote Host), and the port number that the server has established (Remote Port). For example, Remote Host=www.yahoo.com, Remote Port=80. 2. Provide TCP Viewer with a arbitrary port number to establish (Local Port). If 0 is provided, TCP Viewer will ask the OS for an available port number. The port number it establishes will be displayed. For example, Local Port=9000. 3. Configure a client to connect to TCP Viewer instead of the server. This involves providing a client with the name or IP address of the machine that TCP Viewer is running on, instead of the machine that the server is running on, and the port number that TCP Viewer has established, instead of the port number that the server has established. For example, http://127.0.0.1:9000. Substitute 127.0.0.1 with the IP address of the machine that TCP Viewer is running on. TCP Viewer shows this IP address on its status bar. TCP Viewer displays its output in a scrollable text box. This data may additionally be sent to a file. By default, only 32KB of data is kept in the scrollable text box. Higher data limits may be selected, including unlimited. However, TCP Viewer runs slower as the amount of data in the scrollable text box grows. It handles more than one connection. The unregistered version does not provide the option of logging data to a file, only keeps 32KB of data in the scrollable text box and handles a maximum of four simulatneous connections. When you register TCP Viewer, you will be sent a code that enables the additional features. Contact us if you would like to evaluate TCP Viewer with the additional features before registering. We would be happy to send you a temporary code. ------------------------------------------------------------------ COMMAND-LINE PARAMETERS ------------------------------------------------------------------ No command-line parameters need to be provided to TCP Viewer. If provided, it must conform to the following Usage statement: Usage: TCPVIEWR [-file ] [-size 32KB|128KB|512KB|2MB|Unlimited] [-detail Low|Medium|High] [-auto] -auto causes TCP Viewer to 'Start' automatically. And, it will not prompt for confirmation, when closing, if the local port is still opened. For example, 'TCPVIEWR www.yahoo.com 80 9000 -file YAHOO.TXT -auto'. ------------------------------------------------------------------ REQUIREMENTS ------------------------------------------------------------------ * Windows 9X/ME/NT/2000 * 2MB RAM * 1MB hard disk space ------------------------------------------------------------------ REGISTERING ------------------------------------------------------------------ The registration fee for TCP Viewer is $20 and licenses everyone in your company to use it. See the registering topic in TCP Viewer's help file for additional details. ------------------------------------------------------------------ DISTRIBUTING ------------------------------------------------------------------ You may make as many copies of the software as you wish; give exact copies of it to anyone; and distribute the software in its unmodified form via electronic means. There is no charge for any of the above. You are provided with a license code when you register. You may not distribute the license code to anyone outside of your company. ------------------------------------------------------------------ CONTACT INFORMATION ------------------------------------------------------------------ Name David Westbrook Electronic Mail Address dwestb@cybermax.net Phone 1-877-634-6754 (Toll Free) World Wide Web http://www.westbrooksoftware.com Address 11129 Harbour North Lane Jacksonville, FL 32225 - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Thu Jun 26 18:19:13 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Ralph Cohen) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 13:19:13 -0400 Subject: [pmmail-list] Global Sort order In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 14:58:45 +0550, Parag Mehta wrote: >Hi All > >Is there any way to have sort order defined globally for a particular account ? > >if not then globally for all the accounts in PMMail ? > I believe the sort order can only be set on a folder by folder basis - not by account. Ralph Cohen - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Thu Jun 26 19:30:53 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Andrew Webber) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 14:30:53 -0400 Subject: [pmmail-list] Problem bouncing msgs to myself Message-ID: <20030626183217.MSKY27314.tomts12-srv.bellnexxia.net@YCXFSSTO> I'm trying to bounce messages to myself (removing attachments in the process). But I'm getting this error: >Hi. This is the qmail-send program at >smtp-1-1c.secureserver.net. I'm afraid >I wasn't able to deliver your message >to the following addresses. This is a >permanent error; I've given up. Sorry >it didn't work out. Sorry, your message >cannot be delivered. > >: >This message is looping: it already has >my Delivered-To line. (#5.4.6) I am able to bounce to my Sympatico.ca account, but I get the same error message when I try to bounce back to my wwwebbers.com account. Is there anything I can do to make this work? Am I doing it wrong? Thanks! andrew [awebber@wwwebbers.com] ph 613-797-8123 fx 707-248-1491 ------ For PGP public key, send email with "send public key" as subject - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Thu Jun 26 19:57:40 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Steve Wendt) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 11:57:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [pmmail-list] Problem bouncing msgs to myself In-Reply-To: <20030626183217.MSKY27314.tomts12-srv.bellnexxia.net@YCXFSSTO> Message-ID: <20030626115642.W98621-100000@fingers.shocking.com> On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Andrew Webber wrote: > >: > >This message is looping: it already has > >my Delivered-To line. (#5.4.6) > > I am able to bounce to my Sympatico.ca account, but I get the same > error message when I try to bounce back to my wwwebbers.com > account. > > Is there anything I can do to make this work? Am I doing it wrong? It sounds like the server is adding a line to the headers to prevent mail loops; when you bounce the message, it sees it and won't continue. To fix it, you would need to edit that line out of the header. - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Fri Jun 27 01:00:57 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Kari Suomela) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 19:00:57 -0500 Subject: [pmmail-list] Problem sending mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1056654214@ksbase> Thursday June 26 2003 17:15, Xav wrote to All: X> No, this is a windows system it is running on. The client is X> configured exactly as before but I find it weird that some messages X> are sent without problem - literally gone on the "send" click, X> whereas X> others get the "waiting for server acceptance" then error message X> and The error message usually is the first clue. Then open the message, and check for garbage in the to: line. I bet there is a space, or an illegal character. KS KARICO Business Services Toronto, ON Canada http://www.karico.ca Get The Pocket Pro now!: http://www.pocketproshop.com - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Fri Jun 27 01:31:17 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Stephen Eickhoff) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 20:31:17 -0400 Subject: [pmmail-list] [real] PMMail .2717 hangs computer In-Reply-To: <200306261205.h5QC5v617705@solomon.io.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 07:05:53 -0500, Hazen Woods wrote: >On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 06:54:50 -0400, Michael Lueck wrote: > >>>On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 22:49:06 -0500, Hazen Woods wrote: >>> >>>>I need to check with Norton to see what they say about >>>>that. >>> >>>"We are sorry but we are only able to assist you with major email programs such >>>as OutLook and Eudora. Please try one of these programs for better results." >>> >>> > >And think of what they would say if I told them I had Warp 4.0 and eCS >on board! "What's OS/2? You mean MacOS?" ---------------------------------- Stephen Eickhoff operagost@email.com ---------------------------------- - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Fri Jun 27 03:27:14 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Maynard Riley) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 21:27:14 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [pmmail-list] Global Sort order In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2860.21.27.14.26.06.2003@localhost> On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 13:19:13 -0400, Ralph Cohen wrote: >I believe the sort order can only be set on a folder by folder basis - >not by account. I agree; noting that new subfolders seem to inherit the properties of their parent folder. -- Maynard - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Fri Jun 27 05:23:57 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Parag Mehta) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 10:13:57 +0550 Subject: [pmmail-list] Addressbook Migrate from OE 6 Message-ID: Hi All is there a know problem in importing Address book from Outlook Express 6.0 ? I am unable to import. The Migration process completes without errors but none of the addresses from the outlook express 6.0 address book get imported. also am unable to add outlook espress 6.0 as a Mailer in migrate dialogue box. thanks in advance for all the help. Parag - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Fri Jun 27 05:31:50 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Parag Mehta) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 10:21:50 +0550 Subject: [pmmail-list] Global Sort order In-Reply-To: <2860.21.27.14.26.06.2003@localhost> Message-ID: Hi Maynard & Ralph Thanks for the info. The reason for asking this sort order query is because i have a mailbox which is on IMAP and i had been playing around with IMAP using outlook express like moving messages from IMAP to local folders and back to the IMAP Server Account etc. in this process the mails got dis-sorted and all the latest mails went at the end of and the complete sort order messed up. now when i downloaded those mails to PMMail they got downloaded in the same fashion and now the ails are not sorted properl based on the date criteria they were received. infact they are in the order of the date and time they were downlaoded. however i have not been able to set the order back even by changing the sort order preferences by manually changing the sort order for that folder. any help would highly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Parag On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 21:27:14 -0500 (CDT), Maynard Riley wrote: >On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 13:19:13 -0400, Ralph Cohen wrote: >>I believe the sort order can only be set on a folder by folder basis - >>not by account. >I agree; noting that new subfolders seem to inherit the properties of >their parent folder. >-- Maynard >- pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- >To POST to the list, send your message to: >pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com >To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com >with the first line of the message body being... >UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com >--------------------------------------------------------------------- - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Fri Jun 27 11:28:44 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Maynard Riley) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 05:28:44 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [pmmail-list] Global Sort order In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2861.05.28.44.27.06.2003@localhost> On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 10:21:50 +0550, Parag Mehta wrote: >now when i downloaded those mails to PMMail they got downloaded in the same fashion and now the ails are not sorted properl based on the date criteria >they were received. infact they are in the order of the date and time they were downlaoded. It looks to me that if you sort on Message Date (rather than date/time Received) it will use the Date: header field, and adjust by any time zone specified within that field. -- Maynard - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Fri Jun 27 13:35:50 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Wayne Dunham) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 08:35:50 -0400 Subject: [pmmail-list] Problem with Netscape 7.0 Message-ID: <0HH50018056LUY@mtaout04.icomcast.net> I'm using PmMail Pro 2.20.2661 on Win98se and just started using Netscape 7.0. No matter whether I set PmMail to open a new browser or not it always opens the web page in the existing browser window instead of the page already loaded into the browser. Even worse if I have any tabs open it kills them too, so not only do I lose the page I had I lose any others I had opened. I really like the tabbed browsing in 7.0 but may have to go back to 6.x which works properly opening a new window leaving any other open windows alone. I know I'm not using the latest version but I see nothing listed in the later versions that were causing me any problems which is why I haven't updated. Wayne Dunham waynedunham@email.com - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Fri Jun 27 18:33:57 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Robert Dahlem) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 19:33:57 +0200 Subject: [pmmail-list] Problem with Netscape 7.0 In-Reply-To: <0HH50018056LUY@mtaout04.icomcast.net> Message-ID: On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 08:35:50 -0400, Wayne Dunham wrote: > I'm using PmMail Pro 2.20.2661 on Win98se and just started using >Netscape 7.0. No matter whether I set PmMail to open a new browser >or not it always opens the web page in the existing browser window >instead of the page already loaded into the browser. That's a behaviour I can reproduce with Mozilla 1.4rc1 and I can not reproduce with IE6 SP1. So this seems not to be PMMail's fault. >Even worse if I have any tabs open it kills them too, so not only do >I lose the page I had I lose any others I had opened. I can't reproduce that with Mozilla 1.4rc1. You should give this one a try in favour of NS7 anyway: NS is always a little late when it comes to new technologies like tabbed browsing, popup prevention et al. Regards, Robert - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Fri Jun 27 20:33:30 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Wayne Dunham) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 15:33:30 -0400 Subject: [pmmail-list] Problem with Netscape 7.0 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <0HH5007L5NOEEP@mtaout04.icomcast.net> On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 19:33:57 +0200, Robert Dahlem wrote: >I can't reproduce that with Mozilla 1.4rc1. You should give this one a >try in favour of NS7 anyway: NS is always a little late when it comes >to new technologies like tabbed browsing, popup prevention et al. Thanks, I'll take a look at Mozilla. Wayne Dunham waynedunham@email.com - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Sat Jun 28 21:08:21 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Jesper Holten) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 22:08:21 +0200 Subject: [pmmail-list] A newby question In-Reply-To: <0HH5007L5NOEEP@mtaout04.icomcast.net> Message-ID: Hi. I am new to pm mail. My question is: Is it possible to sort mesages by thread and to jump to unread threads in the message pane? Best regards, Jesper. Holten - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Sun Jun 29 09:06:14 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Robert Dahlem) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 10:06:14 +0200 Subject: [pmmail-list] A newby question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 22:08:21 +0200, Jesper Holten wrote: >Is it possible to sort mesages by thread and to jump to unread >threads in the message pane? No and No. Regards, Robert - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Sun Jun 29 14:23:51 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (W. J. Myles) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 09:23:51 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [pmmail-list] A newby question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 10:06:14 +0200, Robert Dahlem wrote: >On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 22:08:21 +0200, Jesper Holten wrote: > >>Is it possible to sort mesages by thread and to jump to unread >>threads in the message pane? > >No and No. However it is possible to sort folders on "Read Status"," Subject" and "Date & Time of Message". Not the same but almost works... Walter - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Sun Jun 29 14:33:45 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Wayne Dunham) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 09:33:45 -0400 Subject: [pmmail-list] A newby question Message-ID: <0HH8007LWWCNG0@mtaout05.icomcast.net> On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 09:23:51 -0400 (EDT), W. J. Myles wrote: >However it is possible to sort folders on "Read Status"," Subject" >and "Date & Time of Message". > >Not the same but almost works... Exactly how I have mine set up and it does a pretty good job of keeping threads together. Wayne Dunham waynedunham@email.com - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Sun Jun 29 16:46:08 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Jesper Holten) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 17:46:08 +0200 Subject: [pmmail-list] Launching urls from within a message. Message-ID: Hi. I cannot get launching of urls and links to work from within the reading message window. I have tried to have Internet explorer as the external editor, but it says that there is no links when I put a message into explorer, by alt +x. What am I doing wrong? I run pm mail 2.20 and windows xp explorer 6.0. I have used the instructions available from the faq regarding this problem, but stil it doesn't work. I hope that some of you can help me, best regards, jesper Holten - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Sun Jun 29 17:03:06 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Xav) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 17:03:06 +0100 Subject: [pmmail-list] Problem sending mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Further testing indicates that the problem shows itself only on messages with content over three lines long (or with attachments). There appears to be nothing special other than that. Any ideas as to cause? Regards, Xav - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Sun Jun 29 17:38:42 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Robert Dahlem) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 18:38:42 +0200 Subject: [pmmail-list] Problem sending mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 17:03:06 +0100, Xav wrote: >Further testing indicates that the problem shows itself only on >messages with content over three lines long (or with attachments). >There appears to be nothing special other than that. Any ideas as >to cause? Big packets are lost, definitely an MTU problem. You will have to investigate which MTU is the maximum for your connection and how you can reduce MTU for your driver. Regards, Robert - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... 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None of these problems are evident with that email package, which I installed to try and see where the problem was. Anyhow, thanks for the suggestion, which I will check. [Feeling a bit like a yoyo between houses at the moment :-))] Regards, Xav. - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Sun Jun 29 17:58:29 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Robert Dahlem) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 18:58:29 +0200 Subject: [pmmail-list] Problem sending mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 17:45:46 +0100, Xav wrote: >>>Further testing indicates that the problem shows itself only on >>>messages with content over three lines long (or with attachments). >>>There appears to be nothing special other than that. Any ideas as >>>to cause? >>Big packets are lost, definitely an MTU problem. You will have to >>investigate which MTU is the maximum for your connection and how you >>can reduce MTU for your driver. >But why does it work perfectly with The Bat! None of these problems >are evident with that email package, which I installed to try and see >where the problem was. Can't answer that exactly. One possible explanation would be that TB sends the mail line by line while PMMail sends it (or: is trying to send it) in one packet. Regards, Robert - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Sun Jun 29 18:09:03 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Bill Seward) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 13:09:03 -0400 Subject: [pmmail-list] Problem sending mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --_=_=_=IMA.BOUNDARY.HTML_0801020=_=_=_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Didn't you read the docs where your only allowed one liners :) On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 17:45:46 +0100, Xav wrote: >On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 18:38:42 +0200, Robert Dahlem wrote: > >>On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 17:03:06 +0100, Xav wrote: >> >>>Further testing indicates that the problem shows itself only on >>>messages with content over three lines long (or with attachments). >>>There appears to be nothing special other than that. Any ideas as >>>to cause? >> >>Big packets are lost, definitely an MTU problem. You will have to >>investigate which MTU is the maximum for your connection and how you can >>reduce MTU for your driver. > >But why does it work perfectly with The Bat! None of these problems >are evident with that email package, which I installed to try and see >where the problem was. > >Anyhow, thanks for the suggestion, which I will check. [Feeling a bit >like a yoyo between houses at the moment :-))] > >Regards, > >Xav. >- pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- >To POST to the list, send your message to: >pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com > >To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com >with the first line of the message body being... >UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- --_=_=_=IMA.BOUNDARY.HTML_0801020=_=_=_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Didn't you read the docs where your only allowed one liners :)


On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 17:45:46 +0100, Xav wrote:

>On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 18:38:42 +0200, Robert Dahlem wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 17:03:06 +0100, Xav wrote:
>>
>>>Further testing indicates that the problem shows itself only on
>>>messages with content over three lines long (or with attachments).
>>>There appears to be nothing special other than that. Any ideas as
>>>to cause?
>>
>>Big packets are lost, definitely an MTU problem. You will have to
>>investigate which MTU is the maximum for your connection and how you can
>>reduce MTU for your driver.
>
>But why does it work perfectly with The Bat! None of these problems
>are evident with that email package, which I installed to try and see
>where the problem was.
>
>Anyhow, thanks for the suggestion, which I will check. [Feeling a bit
>like a yoyo between houses at the moment :-))]
>
>Regards,
>
>Xav.
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--_=_=_=IMA.BOUNDARY.HTML_0801020=_=_=_-- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Sun Jun 29 18:31:55 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Xav) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 18:31:55 +0100 Subject: [pmmail-list] Problem sending mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --_=_=_=IMA.BOUNDARY.HTML_3908248=_=_=_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Original Message Text--- From: Bill Seward Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 13:09:03 -0400 >Didn't you read the docs where your only allowed one liners :) Do you mean like:- ********** off :-))))) [which I'm sure is what my friend feels like saying :-)) ] Regards, Xav. - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- --_=_=_=IMA.BOUNDARY.HTML_3908248=_=_=_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Original Message Text---
From: Bill Seward
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 13:09:03 -0400

>Didn't you read the docs where your only allowed one liners :)

Do you mean like:-

********** off :-)))))

[which I'm sure is what my friend feels like saying :-)) ]

Regards,

Xav.

--_=_=_=IMA.BOUNDARY.HTML_3908248=_=_=_-- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Sun Jun 29 18:32:56 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Xav) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 18:32:56 +0100 Subject: [pmmail-list] Problem sending mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 18:58:29 +0200, Robert Dahlem wrote: >Can't answer that exactly. One possible explanation would be that TB >sends the mail line by line while PMMail sends it (or: is trying to >send it) in one packet. Is there any sniffer that would let me see the text of the offending messages i.e what actually gets sent in plain text ? Regards, Xav. - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Sun Jun 29 18:52:52 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Robert Dahlem) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 19:52:52 +0200 Subject: [pmmail-list] Problem sending mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 18:32:56 +0100, Xav wrote: >>Can't answer that exactly. One possible explanation would be that TB >>sends the mail line by line while PMMail sends it (or: is trying to >>send it) in one packet. >Is there any sniffer that would let me see the text of the offending >messages i.e what actually gets sent in plain text ? Ethereal ... http://www.ethereal.com/ Don't be fooled: It's sniffing what gets sent out. It's not sniffing whats reaching the other end. Regards, Robert - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Mon Jun 30 02:39:27 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Dr. Jeffrey Race) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 08:39:27 +0700 Subject: [pmmail-list] Problem sending mail Message-ID: On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 18:32:56 +0100, Xav wrote: >Is there any sniffer that would let me see the text of the offending >messages i.e what actually gets sent in plain text ? IPTRACE - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Mon Jun 30 12:44:45 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Parag Mehta) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 17:34:45 +0550 Subject: [pmmail-list] Personal Certificates Message-ID: Hi All Any chance or way of sending mails encrypted using the personal certificates issued by Thawte or any other such certificate issuer ? Regards, Parag - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Mon Jun 30 13:23:14 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Patrick R. Sklenar) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 08:23:14 -0400 Subject: [pmmail-list] filter question ... Message-ID: <200306301223.h5UCNFH12000@mailinbound.uhc.com> Is it possible to have a filter automagically add a "CC/BCC" to an outgoing email? The best I can come up with is to forward, but ... CC/BCC would be cleaner. :) Thanks, -- pat---- pat@sklenar.info ---===--- http://www.sklenar.info - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Mon Jun 30 22:32:57 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Xav) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 22:32:57 +0100 Subject: [pmmail-list] Problem sending mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 18:38:42 +0200, Robert Dahlem wrote: >>Further testing indicates that the problem shows itself only on >>messages with content over three lines long (or with attachments). >>There appears to be nothing special other than that. Any ideas as >>to cause? > >Big packets are lost, definitely an MTU problem. You will have to >investigate which MTU is the maximum for your connection and how you can >reduce MTU for your driver. I found a command line that tests the MTU size via ping. The machine passed the test for a working MTU of 1500. So apart from getting the chance to sniff what is actually being sent, I am still at a loss as to the problem's real cause. I hate 'puters :-))) Regards, Xav. - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com Mon Jun 30 23:32:09 2003 From: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com (Paul Hodges) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 23:32:09 +0100 Subject: [pmmail-list] Problem sending mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <0084733720.0001VJPT@refety.qbss.com> On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 17:03:06 +0100, Xav wrote: > Further testing indicates that the problem shows itself only on > messages with content over three lines long Unfortunately, I've lost the start of this discussion, so I might be completely on the wrong track here - but this feels like a problem with wrapping. Some clients (like Outlook) don't wrap paragraphs at all, which break the RFC rules; and some clients can't handle even unwrapped lines of the length that are allowed, so that for instance, using Pegasus mail (at least until recently) to read mail sent from Outlook resulted in every paragraph being truncated to 250 (sic - not 356) characters. The coincidence of this length with the "three lines" quoted above is what made me write this. Paul Hodges QBS Software Ltd - pmmail-list - The PMMail Discussion List --------------------------- To POST to the list, send your message to: pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message to mdaemon@bmtmicro.com with the first line of the message body being... UNSUBSCRIBE pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------