From phil at kanafi.org  Sat Jan 19 01:24:09 2008
From: phil at kanafi.org (Phil Kane)
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:24:09 -0800
Subject: [pmmail-list] Active?
In-Reply-To: <E1IqYR9-0001Qp-23@elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <200801190024.m0J0OHI1015533@omr13.networksolutionsemail.com>


  Is this list still active?
--
   Phil Kane

   From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
   Beaverton (Washington County)  Oregon





From mlueck at lueckdatasystems.com  Sat Jan 19 02:36:15 2008
From: mlueck at lueckdatasystems.com (Michael Lueck)
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:36:15 -0500
Subject: [pmmail-list] Active?
In-Reply-To: <200801190024.m0J0OHI1015533@omr13.networksolutionsemail.com>
References: <200801190024.m0J0OHI1015533@omr13.networksolutionsemail.com>
Message-ID: <4791540F.2050009@lueckdatasystems.com>

Phil Kane wrote:
>   Is this list still active?

Tap tap... Yes this list still seems to be working.


-- 
Michael Lueck
Lueck Data Systems
http://www.lueckdatasystems.com/


From keith.myers at att.net  Sat Jan 19 02:40:35 2008
From: keith.myers at att.net (Keith Myers)
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:40:35 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [pmmail-list] Active?
In-Reply-To: <200801190024.m0J0OHI1015533@omr13.networksolutionsemail.com>
Message-ID: <158376.67617.qm@web82111.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Received this email.  Though haven't seen any postings
for over a year.  I thought that support and
development was dead.  Thought I heard rumours that
someone was going to try open-source.

Keith

--- Phil Kane <phil at kanafi.org> wrote:

> 
>   Is this list still active?
> --
>    Phil Kane
> 
>    From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
>    Beaverton (Washington County)  Oregon
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 



From jgferg at mindspring.com  Sat Jan 19 04:55:36 2008
From: jgferg at mindspring.com (Jim Ferguson)
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 22:55:36 -0500
Subject: [pmmail-list] Active?
In-Reply-To: <4791540F.2050009@lueckdatasystems.com>
Message-ID: <E1JG4ne-000256-C5@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

tap, tap, tap indeed--there's always hope...


On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:36:15 -0500, Michael Lueck wrote:

>Phil Kane wrote:
>>   Is this list still active?

>Tap tap... Yes this list still seems to be working.


>-- 
>Michael Lueck
>Lueck Data Systems
>http://www.lueckdatasystems.com/




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From jlillis at vidtek.net  Sat Jan 19 04:54:36 2008
From: jlillis at vidtek.net (jlillis)
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 21:54:36 -0600
Subject: [pmmail-list] Active?
In-Reply-To: <158376.67617.qm@web82111.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <158376.67617.qm@web82111.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4791747C.9000609@vidtek.net>

I had to switch to Thunderbird.  I had a mail Imap server and could not 
get pmail to config to get my mail from the server.

After years of solid, and very pleasant use, I went thunderbird. 

Anyone have a fix for my problem?

'No arsenal, no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women.'
-- Ronald Reagan 



Keith Myers wrote:
> Received this email.  Though haven't seen any postings
> for over a year.  I thought that support and
> development was dead.  Thought I heard rumours that
> someone was going to try open-source.
>
> Keith
>
> --- Phil Kane <phil at kanafi.org> wrote:
>
>   
>>   Is this list still active?
>> --
>>    Phil Kane
>>
>>    From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
>>    Beaverton (Washington County)  Oregon
>>
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From jimoe at sohnen-moe.com  Sat Jan 19 05:52:45 2008
From: jimoe at sohnen-moe.com (James Moe)
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 21:52:45 -0700
Subject: [pmmail-list] Active?
In-Reply-To: <200801190024.m0J0OHI1015533@omr13.networksolutionsemail.com>
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On 01/18/08 05:24 pm, Phil Kane wrote:
>   Is this list still active?
> 
  Yes. It has moved to <NewPMDis at os2voice.org>. Sign up at
<http://pmmdev.os2voice.org/>.
  Version 3.0 is about to be released.

- --
jimoe (at) sohnen-moe (dot) com
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From bxstover at yahoo.co.uk  Sat Jan 19 11:01:05 2008
From: bxstover at yahoo.co.uk (Ben Stover)
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 11:01:05 +0100
Subject: [pmmail-list] Active?
In-Reply-To: <4791821D.20804@sohnen-moe.com>
Message-ID: <MDAEMON-F200801190501.AA0112412md50000417302@bmtmicro.com>

This new eMail seems to be only for OS2 users

Whatabout the old Win based PMMail?


On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 21:52:45 -0700, James Moe wrote:

>On 01/18/08 05:24 pm, Phil Kane wrote:
>>   Is this list still active?
>> 
>  Yes. It has moved to <NewPMDis at os2voice.org>. Sign up at
><http://pmmdev.os2voice.org/>.
>  Version 3.0 is about to be released.

>--
>jimoe (at) sohnen-moe (dot) com





From dave at deezee.org  Sat Jan 19 11:21:54 2008
From: dave at deezee.org (Dave Saville)
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 10:21:54 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [pmmail-list] Active?
In-Reply-To: <MDAEMON-F200801190501.AA0112412md50000417302@bmtmicro.com>
Message-ID: <010-42cf9147-24421.005@deezee.org>

On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 11:01:05 +0100, Ben Stover wrote:

>This new eMail seems to be only for OS2 users
>
>Whatabout the old Win based PMMail?

Ask Blueprint :-) The deal VOICE had for the OS/2 source and name
specifically excludes us from making a Win version.

-- 
Regards

Dave Saville


From jgferg at mindspring.com  Sat Jan 19 13:48:59 2008
From: jgferg at mindspring.com (Jim Ferguson)
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 07:48:59 -0500
Subject: [pmmail-list] Active?
In-Reply-To: <010-42cf9147-24421.005@deezee.org>
Message-ID: <E1JGD7p-0008IA-5q@elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

and Blueprint responds??????

On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 10:21:54 +0000 (GMT), Dave Saville wrote:

>On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 11:01:05 +0100, Ben Stover wrote:

>>This new eMail seems to be only for OS2 users
>>
>>Whatabout the old Win based PMMail?

>Ask Blueprint :-) The deal VOICE had for the OS/2 source and name
>specifically excludes us from making a Win version.

>-- 
>Regards

>Dave Saville







From bxstover at yahoo.co.uk  Sat Jan 19 16:21:50 2008
From: bxstover at yahoo.co.uk (Ben Stover)
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:21:50 +0100
Subject: [pmmail-list] PMmaill cannot send bigger eMails - It stops after some
	Kbytes of transmission
Message-ID: <MDAEMON-F200801191446.AA4602943md50000420246@bmtmicro.com>

Hello,

I have a very special problem on one of my PMMail installations on a WinXP system.

When I sent bigger eMails (e.g. > 100 KB) then the upload speed is at first normal but then slows down and finally halts at approx 57 kB forever.
The eMail is NOT sent.
This problem occurs for all my PMMail accounts but it does NOT occur when I sent the same
eMail over e.g. Thunderbird and it does NOT occur when I sent the same email with PMMail from another, second computer.

Because this problem appears only since a few weeks the reason must be found in some modifications of underlying TCP DLLs
on my WinXP system - not in PMMail itself.  
I could have (accidentially) changed some OS parameter/configuration settings which prevent sending bigger eMails.

Can someone tell me what problem is?

Is there a log which shows more verbose the SMTP protocol and transfer progress ?

Regards
Ben








From bbryan at austin.rr.com  Sat Jan 19 22:05:00 2008
From: bbryan at austin.rr.com (Barry Bryan)
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 15:05:00 -0600
Subject: [pmmail-list] PMmaill cannot send bigger eMails - It stops after some
	Kbytes of transmission
In-Reply-To: <MDAEMON-F200801191446.AA4602943md50000420246@bmtmicro.com>
Message-ID: <20080119210501.OOVX11942.hrndva-omta01.mail.rr.com@BARRY>

On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:21:50 +0100, Ben Stover wrote:


>When I sent bigger eMails (e.g. > 100 KB) then the upload speed is at first normal but then slows down and 
finally halts at approx 57 kB forever.
>The eMail is NOT sent.

I routinely send files greater than 5MB, so I doubt the problem is PMMAIL.   Suggest you check whatever 
SMTP provider you're using.



Regards, Barry




From mlueck at lueckdatasystems.com  Sat Jan 19 22:00:33 2008
From: mlueck at lueckdatasystems.com (Michael Lueck)
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:00:33 -0500
Subject: [pmmail-list] PMmaill cannot send bigger eMails - It stops after
	some Kbytes of transmission
In-Reply-To: <MDAEMON-F200801191446.AA4602943md50000420246@bmtmicro.com>
References: <MDAEMON-F200801191446.AA4602943md50000420246@bmtmicro.com>
Message-ID: <479264F1.3040800@lueckdatasystems.com>

Ben Stover wrote:

> When I sent bigger eMails (e.g. > 100 KB) then the upload speed is at first normal but then slows down and finally halts at approx 57 kB forever.
> The eMail is NOT sent.

While using PMMail for Windows (Windows 2000), I never came across this sort of trouble. Used to send and receive many large emails, emails with attachments.

Possibly could it be specific to the SMTP you are connecting / sending through? Any chance you can try another SMTP?

-- 
Michael Lueck
Lueck Data Systems
http://www.lueckdatasystems.com/


From jgferg at mindspring.com  Sat Jan 19 22:31:31 2008
From: jgferg at mindspring.com (Jim Ferguson)
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:31:31 -0500
Subject: [pmmail-list] PMmaill cannot send bigger eMails - It stops after some
	Kbytes of transmission
In-Reply-To: <20080119210501.OOVX11942.hrndva-omta01.mail.rr.com@BARRY>
Message-ID: <E1JGLHV-0003Vs-1i@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Ditto,

Jim Ferguson

On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 15:05:00 -0600, Barry Bryan wrote:

>On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:21:50 +0100, Ben Stover wrote:


>>When I sent bigger eMails (e.g. > 100 KB) then the upload speed is at first normal but then slows down and 
>finally halts at approx 57 kB forever.
>>The eMail is NOT sent.

>I routinely send files greater than 5MB, so I doubt the problem is PMMAIL.   Suggest you check whatever 
>SMTP provider you're using.



>Regards, Barry









From technik at willms-edv.de  Sun Jan 20 12:51:20 2008
From: technik at willms-edv.de (L.Willms)
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 12:51:20 +0100 (MEZ)
Subject: [pmmail-list] Active?
Message-ID: <MDAEMON-F200801200651.AA5105209md50000423925@bmtmicro.com>

On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 21:52:45 -0700, James Moe wrote:

> >   Is this list still active?
> > 
>   Yes. It has moved to <NewPMDis at os2voice.org>. 

  Not really. That is the list for the OS/2-only successor of PMMail 
which is developed by VOICE and which is available only to VOICE members 
(I tried in vain to become a member). 

> Sign up at <http://pmmdev.os2voice.org/>.
>   Version 3.0 is about to be released.

  Will certainly a number of improvements over PMMail 2.x

  For any queries about the existing versions of PMMail, both Windows 
and OS/2, this list is the right place. 


Cheers,
L?ko Willms
-----------------------------------------------
Frankfurt/Main  





From craig at else.net  Sun Jan 20 17:51:00 2008
From: craig at else.net (Craig Hastings)
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:51:00 -0500
Subject: [pmmail-list] Active?
In-Reply-To: <4791747C.9000609@vidtek.net>
References: <158376.67617.qm@web82111.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4791747C.9000609@vidtek.net>
Message-ID: <1200847860.30539.4.camel@piper>


On Fri, 2008-01-18 at 21:54 -0600, jlillis wrote:

> 
> After years of solid, and very pleasant use, I went thunderbird.


Wow activity on the PM mail list,  I went to The Bat! myself feels a
little like PMmail....


Craig

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From jgferg at mindspring.com  Sun Jan 20 19:42:17 2008
From: jgferg at mindspring.com (Jim Ferguson)
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 13:42:17 -0500
Subject: [pmmail-list] Active?
In-Reply-To: <1200847860.30539.4.camel@piper>
Message-ID: <E1JGf7F-0000Lf-M8@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

we're everywhere--just widely dispersed...

Jim

--Original Message Text---
From: Craig Hastings
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:51:00 -0500


On Fri, 2008-01-18 at 21:54 -0600, jlillis wrote:

After years of solid, and very pleasant use, I went thunderbird. 


Wow activity on the PM mail list,  I went to The Bat! myself feels a little like PMmail....


Craig




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From vbvos at quicknet.nl  Sun Jan 20 20:52:48 2008
From: vbvos at quicknet.nl (Vertaalbureau de Vos)
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 20:52:48 +0100
Subject: [pmmail-list] big emails
In-Reply-To: <MDAEMON5944200801200901.AA0118412@mail.bmtmicro.com>
Message-ID: <200801201952.m0KJqlMU021365@vmx90.multikabel.net>

Hello,

I recognise the problem and in my case it was the virus checker taking
endlessly to scan the outgoing mail. Once I told the program to stop scanning
outgoing mail the problem vanished. The problem was ultimately a timeout on the
server, PMMail contacted the server to upload mail but it was blocked by the
virus scanner until it had checked everything. By the time it had finished the
server had timed out.

Paul

-----------
Ben wrote:

Hello,

I have a very special problem on one of my PMMail installations on a WinXP
system.

When I sent bigger eMails (e.g. > 100 KB) then the upload speed is at first
normal but then slows down and finally halts at approx 57 kB forever.
The eMail is NOT sent.
This problem occurs for all my PMMail accounts but it does NOT occur when I
sent the same
eMail over e.g. Thunderbird and it does NOT occur when I sent the same email
with PMMail from another, second computer.

Because this problem appears only since a few weeks the reason must be found in
some modifications of underlying TCP DLLs
on my WinXP system - not in PMMail itself. 
I could have (accidentially) changed some OS parameter/configuration settings
which prevent sending bigger eMails.

Can someone tell me what problem is?

Is there a log which shows more verbose the SMTP protocol and transfer progress
?

Regards
Ben



--
met vriendelijke groeten,
yours sincerely,

Paul D.J. de Vos
Vertaalbureau de Vos
Mari?nstein 76
NL-1852 SH Heiloo
Netherlands
tel +31 (0)72 532 07 76
fax +31 (0)72 532 07 27