From pmorgan at attglobal.net Sat Mar 6 20:52:46 2010 From: pmorgan at attglobal.net (Phil Morgan) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 14:52:46 -0500 Subject: [pmmail-list] Receiving Mail from GMail ? Message-ID: <4B92B28E.2070803@attglobal.net> I'm a long time user of PMMail since it was PMMail98. Is it possible to configure PMMail2KPro (v.2.20.2717) for Windows to download messages from my GMail account? I've tried all the available Authentication settings and none work. Is there a way to create an SSL connection to use with PMMail as was required to access GMail under Thunderbird? - - Phil Morgan, using Windows 7 Pro From mlueck at lueckdatasystems.com Sat Mar 6 21:07:05 2010 From: mlueck at lueckdatasystems.com (Michael Lueck) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 15:07:05 -0500 Subject: [pmmail-list] Receiving Mail from GMail ? In-Reply-To: <4B92B28E.2070803@attglobal.net> References: <4B92B28E.2070803@attglobal.net> Message-ID: <4B92B5E9.4040602@lueckdatasystems.com> Phil Morgan wrote: > Is there a way to create an SSL connection to use with PMMail as was > required to access GMail under Thunderbird? PMMail never had SSL nor TLS support. GMail and Thunderbird work very nicely together using the IMAP interface. PMMail was only a POP client, no IMAP capabilities. I would suggest you migrate your PMMail to Thunderbird 2.x. Someone once developed a PMMail to TBird 2.x migration script in Perl. I used that to convert all of our PMMail installations over to TBird. I would be happy to provide you with a copy. Sincerely, -- Michael Lueck Lueck Data Systems http://www.lueckdatasystems.com/ From pmorgan at attglobal.net Sat Mar 6 21:35:53 2010 From: pmorgan at attglobal.net (Phil Morgan) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 15:35:53 -0500 Subject: [pmmail-list] Receiving Mail from GMail ? In-Reply-To: <4B92B5E9.4040602@lueckdatasystems.com> References: <4B92B28E.2070803@attglobal.net> <4B92B5E9.4040602@lueckdatasystems.com> Message-ID: <4B92BCA9.2080502@attglobal.net> Mike: Thanks for offering. I had run that script several years ago to migrate to TBird to save a lot of work in case PMMail became unusable, etc., for some reason. Since then (2007), I've run PMMail and TBird side by side (on XP and, now, Win7) until I got a GMail account. The GMail works fine on TBird and my Treo, but I couldn't get anywhere with it under PMMail ... I conclude that there's no workaround for the absence of SSL support? Too bad. Thought it was worth asking this group as I've found they have the answers to almost everything. Thanks, - - Phil On 3/6/2010 3:07 PM, Michael Lueck wrote: > Phil Morgan wrote: >> Is there a way to create an SSL connection to use with PMMail as was >> required to access GMail under Thunderbird? > > PMMail never had SSL nor TLS support. > > GMail and Thunderbird work very nicely together using the IMAP > interface. PMMail was only a POP client, no IMAP capabilities. > > I would suggest you migrate your PMMail to Thunderbird 2.x. > > Someone once developed a PMMail to TBird 2.x migration script in Perl. > I used that to convert all of our PMMail installations over to TBird. > I would be happy to provide you with a copy. > > Sincerely, > From stevew at shocking.com Sat Mar 6 23:21:52 2010 From: stevew at shocking.com (Steve Wendt) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 14:21:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: [***SPAM*** Score/Req: 20.10/20] [pmmail-list] Receiving Mail from GMail ? In-Reply-To: <4B92BCA9.2080502@attglobal.net> Message-ID: <201003062221.o26MLsuJ000846@nlpi087.prodigy.net> On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 15:35:53 -0500, Phil Morgan wrote: >I conclude that there's no workaround for the absence of SSL support? The workaround is to use stunnel as the intermediary. ----------- "Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws." - Plato (427-347 B.C.) From jchumphrey53 at comcast.net Sat Mar 6 23:25:10 2010 From: jchumphrey53 at comcast.net (John C Humphrey) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 17:25:10 -0500 (EST) Subject: [pmmail-list] Receiving Mail from GMail ? In-Reply-To: <4B92B28E.2070803@attglobal.net> References: <4B92B28E.2070803@attglobal.net> Message-ID: <100.b030010046d6924b.048@comcast.net> The OS/2 version of PMMail is integrated with Stunnel to provide encryption support and that works with GMail. Perhaps you can try the Stunnel Windows binaries to provide an SSL tunnel to GMail. I have not tried it myself but it should work. John On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 14:52:46 -0500 Phil Morgan wrote: > >I'm a long time user of PMMail since it was PMMail98. Is it possible to >configure PMMail2KPro (v.2.20.2717) for Windows to download messages >from my GMail account? I've tried all the available Authentication >settings and none work. > >Is there a way to create an SSL connection to use with PMMail as was >required to access GMail under Thunderbird? > > - - Phil Morgan, using Windows 7 Pro > > > From mlueck at lueckdatasystems.com Sat Mar 6 23:26:36 2010 From: mlueck at lueckdatasystems.com (Michael Lueck) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 17:26:36 -0500 Subject: [pmmail-list] [***SPAM*** Score/Req: 20.10/20] Receiving Mail from GMail ? In-Reply-To: <201003062221.o26MLsuJ000846@nlpi087.prodigy.net> References: <201003062221.o26MLsuJ000846@nlpi087.prodigy.net> Message-ID: <4B92D69C.7020300@lueckdatasystems.com> Steve Wendt wrote: > The workaround is to use stunnel as the intermediary. THANK YOU! I knew there was some work around, and knew that POPFile was not the work around. Yes stunnel should do the trick. -- Michael Lueck Lueck Data Systems http://www.lueckdatasystems.com/ From PMorgan at attglobal.net Sun Mar 7 00:27:20 2010 From: PMorgan at attglobal.net (Philip Morgan) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 23:27:20 +0000 Subject: [pmmail-list] Receiving Mail from GMail ? Message-ID: <201003062327.o26NRKk1009076@smtp2.suw.hosting-ops.com> Thanks, John. I'll take a look for them and give that a try. Thanks, again! - - Phil, from Palm Treo 755p using Palm Mail ---- Original Message ---- From: "John C Humphrey" Date: 3/6/10 5:25 pm To: "pmmail-list at blueprintsoftwareworks.com" Subj: [pmmail-list] Receiving Mail from GMail ? The OS/2 version of PMMail is integrated with Stunnel to provide encryption support and that works with GMail. Perhaps you can try the Stunnel Windows binaries to provide an SSL tunnel to GMail. I have not tried it myself but it should work. John On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 14:52:46 -0500 Phil Morgan wrote: > >I'm a long time user of PMMail since it was PMMail98. Is it possible to >configure PMMail2KPro (v.2.20.2717) for Windows to download messages >from my GMail account? I've tried all the available Authentication >settings and none work. > >Is there a way to create an SSL connection to use with PMMail as was >required to access GMail under Thunderbird? > > - - Phil Morgan, using Windows 7 Pro > > > From phil at kanafi.org Sun Mar 7 01:45:00 2010 From: phil at kanafi.org (Phil Kane) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 16:45:00 -0800 Subject: [pmmail-list] Receiving Mail from List In-Reply-To: <4B92B28E.2070803@attglobal.net> References: <4B92B28E.2070803@attglobal.net> Message-ID: <4B92F70C.40702@kanafi.org> How do I unsubscribe from this list? (PMMail has been history here for several years.) -- Phil Kane From mlueck at lueckdatasystems.com Sun Mar 7 02:06:15 2010 From: mlueck at lueckdatasystems.com (Michael Lueck) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 20:06:15 -0500 Subject: [pmmail-list] Receiving Mail from List In-Reply-To: <4B92F70C.40702@kanafi.org> References: <4B92B28E.2070803@attglobal.net> <4B92F70C.40702@kanafi.org> Message-ID: <4B92FC07.4020808@lueckdatasystems.com> Phil Kane wrote: > How do I unsubscribe from this list? Per the instructions in the header of every email from this list... List-Unsubscribe: Sincerely, -- Michael Lueck Lueck Data Systems http://www.lueckdatasystems.com/ From pmorgan at attglobal.net Sun Mar 7 02:57:38 2010 From: pmorgan at attglobal.net (Phil Morgan) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 20:57:38 -0500 Subject: [pmmail-list] Receiving Mail from GMail ? In-Reply-To: <100.b030010046d6924b.048@comcast.net> References: <4B92B28E.2070803@attglobal.net> <100.b030010046d6924b.048@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4B930812.7090407@attglobal.net> I have downloaded and installed the Windows binaries for Stunnel v4.31 and OpenSSL v.9.8i. I'm at a loss about what to put into the stunnel configuration file to make PMMail connect thru SSL to GMail. Anyone with stunnel experience that can help? I've read the FAQ at Stunnel.org and am lost by the language and lack of a simple 'how-to" description. I clearly don't know enough about the issues involved to set up this file. - - Phil On 3/6/2010 5:25 PM, John C Humphrey wrote: > The OS/2 version of PMMail is integrated with Stunnel to provide encryption support and that works with GMail. Perhaps you can try the Stunnel Windows binaries to provide an SSL tunnel to GMail. I have not tried it myself but it should work. > > John > > On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 14:52:46 -0500 Phil Morgan wrote: > >> I'm a long time user of PMMail since it was PMMail98. Is it possible to >> configure PMMail2KPro (v.2.20.2717) for Windows to download messages >> > >from my GMail account? I've tried all the available Authentication > >> settings and none work. >> >> Is there a way to create an SSL connection to use with PMMail as was >> required to access GMail under Thunderbird? >> >> - - Phil Morgan, using Windows 7 Pro >> >> >> >> > > > From jchumphrey53 at comcast.net Sun Mar 7 06:48:27 2010 From: jchumphrey53 at comcast.net (John C Humphrey) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 00:48:27 -0500 (EST) Subject: [pmmail-list] Receiving Mail from GMail ? In-Reply-To: <4B930812.7090407@attglobal.net> References: <4B92B28E.2070803@attglobal.net> <100.b030010046d6924b.048@comcast.net> <4B930812.7090407@attglobal.net> Message-ID: <100.288804002b3e934b.057@comcast.net> Try looking at also perhaps (though it involves a spam filter also). Essentially you need to set stunnel.conf to listen at an unused port with the "accept=" setting which is what you set PMMail to access and put the gmail severs & ports on the "connect=" line. So if under [pop3s] you have accept=127.0.0.1:11110 and connect=pop.gmail.com:995 then PMMail pop server is set to 127.0.0.1 port 11110. Similar for smtp as explained on the web pages. You do need to start stunnel before fetching or sending mail. It can also be installed as a service (explained on the spampal site) but as I understand it while stunnel is running it keeps its external ports open which could expose you to some security risk. John On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 20:57:38 -0500 Phil Morgan wrote: > >I have downloaded and installed the Windows binaries for Stunnel v4.31 >and OpenSSL v.9.8i. I'm at a loss about what to put into the stunnel >configuration file to make PMMail connect thru SSL to GMail. > >Anyone with stunnel experience that can help? I've read the FAQ at >Stunnel.org and am lost by the language and lack of a simple 'how-to" >description. I clearly don't know enough about the issues involved to >set up this file. > > - - Phil > >On 3/6/2010 5:25 PM, John C Humphrey wrote: >> The OS/2 version of PMMail is integrated with Stunnel to provide encryption support and that works with GMail. Perhaps you can try the Stunnel Windows binaries to provide an SSL tunnel to GMail. I have not tried it myself but it should work. >> >> John >> >> On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 14:52:46 -0500 Phil Morgan wrote: >> >>> I'm a long time user of PMMail since it was PMMail98. Is it possible to >>> configure PMMail2KPro (v.2.20.2717) for Windows to download messages >>> >> >from my GMail account? I've tried all the available Authentication >> >>> settings and none work. >>> >>> Is there a way to create an SSL connection to use with PMMail as was >>> required to access GMail under Thunderbird? >>> >>> - - Phil Morgan, using Windows 7 Pro >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > From richardelli at earthlink.net Sun Mar 7 07:05:41 2010 From: richardelli at earthlink.net (Richard Beeson) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 01:05:41 -0500 Subject: [pmmail-list] Receiving Mail from GMail ? In-Reply-To: <4B92B5E9.4040602@lueckdatasystems.com> Message-ID: If I were you, I'd give up on the Gmail account and find another one that doesn't require TLS, SSL, or IMAP. I've tried Tbird 2.x twice, and given up on it; gone back to PMMail every time. Tbird is slow when the messages build up, especially when people insist on sending inline graphics; it tries to read all the graphics in the queue, even if you haven't opened them. The worst aspect of it and all the other clients, as opposed to PMMail, is that it is next to impossible to save a large archive of separate messages. I use PMMail filters to separate important messages from unimportant ones, and periodically copy them over to a backup drive, unzipped, using a simple file copy operation, before I clean out the mail folders. That way I can hunt for old mail using a regular text search in my file manager. I recentl had to find an email that was 10 years old and it took hardly any time at all. Once I found it, I was able to open it either in Notepad, with all the header information, or in PMMail itself just by double-clicking it. These programs that put all the emails for an account into one file drive me crazy, and I'll go down with the ship on this one. It took me three days to save out a few months' worth of individual emails in Tbird. And I'm not about to do it in every session. I'm glad you posted this. Now I'll be sure I never sign up for Gmail. I actually quit using earthlink for the most part (although I keep the account open) because they kept losing both incoming and outgoing emails. Since I had to open a website for myself anyway, I now use that as my main email account, and it doesn't require any of the fancy stuff, although you can opt for it if you want. It also has webmail, so you can check your mail from the road. I did this with Register.com. Check out their site. For a few bucks a year you can have email through them with less hassle and better reliability. (You don't have to design an actual website to get email through them. Just establish a domain.) Maybe not free, but the freedom from grief is so worth it, I can't recommend it highly enough. R. On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 15:07:05 -0500, Michael Lueck wrote: >Phil Morgan wrote: >> Is there a way to create an SSL connection to use with PMMail as was >> required to access GMail under Thunderbird? >PMMail never had SSL nor TLS support. >GMail and Thunderbird work very nicely together using the IMAP interface. PMMail was only a POP client, no IMAP capabilities. >I would suggest you migrate your PMMail to Thunderbird 2.x. >Someone once developed a PMMail to TBird 2.x migration script in Perl. I used that to convert all of our PMMail installations over to TBird. I would be happy to provide you with a copy. >Sincerely, >-- >Michael Lueck >Lueck Data Systems >http://www.lueckdatasystems.com/ Richard Beeson ================= richardelli at earthlink.net Text-only (non-HTML) emails appreciated, with separate attachments (no inline graphics). -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.bawue.net/pipermail/pmmail/attachments/20100307/43954461/attachment.html From PMorgan at attglobal.net Fri Mar 12 21:51:10 2010 From: PMorgan at attglobal.net (Philip Morgan) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:51:10 +0000 Subject: [pmmail-list] Receiving Mail from GMail ? Message-ID: <201003122051.o2CKpA84006068@smtp2.suw.hosting-ops.com> I don't share your opinion. I like both programs and like my GMail, too. - - Phil, from Palm Treo 755p using Palm Mail ---- Original Message ---- From: "Richard Beeson" Date: 3/7/10 1:06 am To: "pmmail-list at blueprintsoftwareworks.com" Subj: [pmmail-list] Receiving Mail from GMail ? If I were you, I'd give up on the Gmail account and find another one that doesn't require TLS, SSL, or IMAP. I've tried Tbird 2.x twice, and given up on it; gone back to PMMail every time. Tbird is slow when the messages build up, especially when people insist on sending inline graphics; it tries to read all the graphics in the queue, even if you haven't opened them. The worst aspect of it and all the other clients, as opposed to PMMail, is that it is next to impossible to save a large archive of separate messages. I use PMMail filters to separate important messages from unimportant ones, and periodically copy them over to a backup drive, unzipped, using a simple file copy operation, before I clean out the mail folders. That way I can hunt for old mail using a regular text search in my file manager. I recentl had to find an email that was 10 years old and it took hardly any time at all. Once I found it, I was able to open it either in Notepad, with all the header information, or in PMMail itself just by double-clicking it. These programs that put all the emails for an account into one file drive me crazy, and I'll go down with the ship on this one. It took me three days to save out a few months' worth of individual emails in Tbird. And I'm not about to do it in every session. I'm glad you posted this. Now I'll be sure I never sign up for Gmail. I actually quit using earthlink for the most part (although I keep the account open) because they kept losing both incoming and outgoing emails. Since I had to open a website for myself anyway, I now use that as my main email account, and it doesn't require any of the fancy stuff, although you can opt for it if you want. It also has webmail, so you can check your mail from the road. I did this with Register.com. Check out their site. For a few bucks a year you can have email through them with less hassle and better reliability. (You don't have to design an actual website to get email through them. Just establish a domain.) Maybe not free, but the freedom from grief is so worth it, I can't recommend it highly enough. R. On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 15:07:05 -0500, Michael Lueck wrote: >Phil Morgan wrote: >> Is there a way to create an SSL connection to use with PMMail as was >> required to access GMail under Thunderbird? >PMMail never had SSL nor TLS support. >GMail and Thunderbird work very nicely together using the IMAP interface. PMMail was only a POP client, no IMAP capabilities. >I would suggest you migrate your PMMail to Thunderbird 2.x. >Someone once developed a PMMail to TBird 2.x migration script in Perl. I used that to convert all of our PMMail installations over to TBird. I would be happy to provide you with a copy. >Sincerely, >-- >Michael Lueck >Lueck Data Systems >http://www.lueckdatasystems.com/ Richard Beeson ================= richardelli at earthlink.net Text-only (non-HTML) emails appreciated, with separate attachments (no inline graphics). From richardelli at earthlink.net Fri Mar 12 22:32:20 2010 From: richardelli at earthlink.net (Richard Beeson) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:32:20 -0500 Subject: [pmmail-list] Receiving Mail from GMail ? In-Reply-To: <201003122051.o2CKpA84006068@smtp2.suw.hosting-ops.com> Message-ID: Everyone has different needs and preferences, and I respect that. I tend to shy away from Google because I don't trust them not to gather information. However, I do use Google Adwords for some things, so I guess they've got me anyway. But in any event, I'm quite happy with my own domain's email, and can keep using PM Mail. I just experimented with Pegasus, and it has the same problem with saving out separate messages to archive. It can be done, but is so cumbersome it's not useful for large numbers of files. And it won't open a file that's a separate email file. Even TBird can do that. I simply can't understand why this model of all-mails-in-one-file came to be. I see you are still with attglobal (formerly ibm.net). I left it when I went broadband. Do they have broadband yet? R. On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:51:10 +0000, Philip Morgan wrote: >I don't share your opinion. I like both programs and like my GMail, too. Richard Beeson ================= richardelli at earthlink.net Text-only (non-HTML) emails appreciated, with separate attachments (no inline graphics). From PMorgan at attglobal.net Fri Mar 12 22:51:12 2010 From: PMorgan at attglobal.net (Philip Morgan) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:51:12 +0000 Subject: [pmmail-list] Receiving Mail from GMail ? Message-ID: <201003122151.o2CLpCfe020652@smtp2.suw.hosting-ops.com> Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! I read that and, for the first time, I'm beginning to think the "underlying principle" is beginning to come through. Though the article makes some references to Linux lingo, I presume the syntax and principles do not require Linux to work successfully? Other than installing recommended version of OpenSSL under Windows, does it require anything more than the appropriate Stunnel configuration to use it? - - Phil, from Palm Treo 755p using Palm Mail ---- Original Message ---- From: "John C Humphrey" Date: 3/7/10 12:48 am To: "pmmail-list at blueprintsoftwareworks.com" Subj: [pmmail-list] Receiving Mail from GMail ? Try looking at also perhaps (though it involves a spam filter also). Essentially you need to set stunnel.conf to listen at an unused port with the "accept=" setting which is what you set PMMail to access and put the gmail severs & ports on the "connect=" line. So if under [pop3s] you have accept=127.0.0.1:11110 and connect=pop.gmail.com:995 then PMMail pop server is set to 127.0.0.1 port 11110. Similar for smtp as explained on the web pages. You do need to start stunnel before fetching or sending mail. It can also be installed as a service (explained on the spampal site) but as I understand it while stunnel is running it keeps its external ports open which could expose you to some security risk. John On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 20:57:38 -0500 Phil Morgan wrote: > >I have downloaded and installed the Windows binaries for Stunnel v4.31 >and OpenSSL v.9.8i. I'm at a loss about what to put into the stunnel >configuration file to make PMMail connect thru SSL to GMail. > >Anyone with stunnel experience that can help? I've read the FAQ at >Stunnel.org and am lost by the language and lack of a simple 'how-to" >description. I clearly don't know enough about the issues involved to >set up this file. > > - - Phil > >On 3/6/2010 5:25 PM, John C Humphrey wrote: >> The OS/2 version of PMMail is integrated with Stunnel to provide encryption support and that works with GMail. Perhaps you can try the Stunnel Windows binaries to provide an SSL tunnel to GMail. I have not tried it myself but it should work. >> >> John >> >> On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 14:52:46 -0500 Phil Morgan wrote: >> >>> I'm a long time user of PMMail since it was PMMail98. Is it possible to >>> configure PMMail2KPro (v.2.20.2717) for Windows to download messages >>> >> >from my GMail account? I've tried all the available Authentication >> >>> settings and none work. >>> >>> Is there a way to create an SSL connection to use with PMMail as was >>> required to access GMail under Thunderbird? >>> >>> - - Phil Morgan, using Windows 7 Pro >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > From richardelli at earthlink.net Fri Mar 12 22:52:16 2010 From: richardelli at earthlink.net (Richard Beeson) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:52:16 -0500 Subject: [pmmail-list] Receiving Mail from GMail ? In-Reply-To: <201003122051.o2CKpA84006068@smtp2.suw.hosting-ops.com> Message-ID: As I suggested to Jim Ferguson in a private message, maybe we could get a group going to license the code from the developer, the way the OS/2 users did. Now there's an updated version available in OS/2 on a subscription model. There must be some way to get the program more up to date. R. On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:51:10 +0000, Philip Morgan wrote: >I don't share your opinion. I like both programs and like my GMail, too. Richard Beeson ================= richardelli at earthlink.net Text-only (non-HTML) emails appreciated, with separate attachments (no inline graphics). From PMorgan at attglobal.net Fri Mar 12 23:21:58 2010 From: PMorgan at attglobal.net (Philip Morgan) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:21:58 +0000 Subject: [pmmail-list] Receiving Mail from GMail ? Message-ID: <201003122221.o2CMLxDp025683@smtp1.suw.hosting-ops.com> I was "up" for that years ago when an attempt was made. Wasn't the Windows license/source code not for sale? Certainly would consider such an option! - - Phil, from Palm Treo 755p using Palm Mail ---- Original Message ---- From: "Richard Beeson" Date: 3/12/10 4:52 pm To: "pmmail-list at blueprintsoftwareworks.com" Subj: [pmmail-list] Receiving Mail from GMail ? As I suggested to Jim Ferguson in a private message, maybe we could get a group going to license the code from the developer, the way the OS/2 users did. Now there's an updated version available in OS/2 on a subscription model. There must be some way to get the program more up to date. R. On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:51:10 +0000, Philip Morgan wrote: >I don't share your opinion. I like both programs and like my GMail, too. Richard Beeson ================= richardelli at earthlink.net Text-only (non-HTML) emails appreciated, with separate attachments (no inline graphics). From jchumphrey53 at comcast.net Fri Mar 12 23:53:29 2010 From: jchumphrey53 at comcast.net (John C Humphrey) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:53:29 -0500 (EST) Subject: [pmmail-list] Receiving Mail from GMail ? In-Reply-To: <201003122151.o2CLpCfe020652@smtp2.suw.hosting-ops.com> References: <201003122151.o2CLpCfe020652@smtp2.suw.hosting-ops.com> Message-ID: <100.60cc0500e9c59a4b.022@comcast.net> I don't believe so though as I said (I think) I haven't messed with the Windows Version of Stunnel (just researched it to prepare to get it going), but I see no reason it should not function the same as the OS/2 version. Somewhere on this list there should be people a lot more experienced with Stunnel than I. Perhaps I will get some time this weekend and finish setting up the Windows version to see how it goes. If I do I will post a .conf that works for me. John On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:51:12 +0000 Philip Morgan wrote: > >Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! > >I read that and, for the first time, I'm beginning to think the "underlying principle" is beginning to come through. Though the article makes some references to Linux lingo, I presume the syntax and principles do not require Linux to work successfully? > >Other than installing recommended version of OpenSSL under Windows, does it require anything more than the appropriate Stunnel configuration to use it? > >- - Phil, from Palm Treo 755p > using Palm Mail > >---- Original Message ---- >From: "John C Humphrey" >Date: 3/7/10 12:48 am >To: "pmmail-list at blueprintsoftwareworks.com" >Subj: [pmmail-list] Receiving Mail from GMail ? >Try looking at also perhaps (though it involves a spam filter also). Essentially you need to set stunnel.conf to listen at an unused port with the "accept=" setting which is what you set PMMail to access and put the gmail severs & ports on the "connect=" line. So if under [pop3s] you have accept=127.0.0.1:11110 and connect=pop.gmail.com:995 then PMMail pop server is set to 127.0.0.1 port 11110. Similar for smtp as explained on the web pages. You do need to start stunnel before fetching or sending mail. It can also be installed as a service (explained on the spampal site) but as I understand it while stunnel is running it keeps its external ports open which could expose you to some security risk. > >John > > >On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 20:57:38 -0500 Phil Morgan wrote: >> >>I have downloaded and installed the Windows binaries for Stunnel v4.31 >>and OpenSSL v.9.8i. I'm at a loss about what to put into the stunnel >>configuration file to make PMMail connect thru SSL to GMail. >> >>Anyone with stunnel experience that can help? I've read the FAQ at >>Stunnel.org and am lost by the language and lack of a simple 'how-to" >>description. I clearly don't know enough about the issues involved to >>set up this file. >> >> - - Phil >> >>On 3/6/2010 5:25 PM, John C Humphrey wrote: >>> The OS/2 version of PMMail is integrated with Stunnel to provide encryption support and that works with GMail. Perhaps you can try the Stunnel Windows binaries to provide an SSL tunnel to GMail. I have not tried it myself but it should work. >>> >>> John >>> >>> On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 14:52:46 -0500 Phil Morgan wrote: >>> >>>> I'm a long time user of PMMail since it was PMMail98. Is it possible to >>>> configure PMMail2KPro (v.2.20.2717) for Windows to download messages >>>> >>> >from my GMail account? I've tried all the available Authentication >>> >>>> settings and none work. >>>> >>>> Is there a way to create an SSL connection to use with PMMail as was >>>> required to access GMail under Thunderbird? >>>> >>>> - - Phil Morgan, using Windows 7 Pro >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > > > > From richardelli at earthlink.net Sat Mar 13 00:02:34 2010 From: richardelli at earthlink.net (Richard Beeson) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:02:34 -0500 Subject: [pmmail-list] Receiving Mail from GMail ? In-Reply-To: <201003122221.o2CMLxDp025683@smtp1.suw.hosting-ops.com> Message-ID: I believe it wasn't, but maybe he's changed his mind by now. I tried to put him together with Emil Fickel, who authors programs like EF Commander, and also started out in OS/2. I thought they'd be a good fit. Brandon seemed open to the idea, but Emil didn't want to go ahead with it. Guess he likes to do his own stuff. Maybe if enough of us lean on both of them, they'll see reason...:) Going through another programmer like Emil would not be the same as a group effort, at least not if he was to sell it himself. The prices he charges for his programs are really reasonable, and they are very handy utilities. I use a lot of them. Since he doesn't want to take on updating PM Mail, maybe someone else would, if there could be some kind of arrangement made. Time for me to go into my email archives on the outboard HDD (the archives I couldn't have made in any other program) and see what exchanges I had over this issue a few years ago. R. On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:21:58 +0000, Philip Morgan wrote: >Wasn't the Windows license/source code not for sale? Richard Beeson ================= richardelli at earthlink.net Text-only (non-HTML) emails appreciated, with separate attachments (no inline graphics). From menicoll at telus.net Sat Mar 13 02:38:34 2010 From: menicoll at telus.net (Matthew Nicoll) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:38:34 -0800 Subject: [pmmail-list] Receiving Mail from GMail ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <19740413051344.0FFA3257EBC3B79F@edmwaa03.telusplanet.net> I'd be willing to pay something to help encourage someone or some group to update PMMail for Windows! Matthew Nicoll Cypher Consulting On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:02:34 -0500, Richard Beeson wrote: >I believe it wasn't, but maybe he's changed his mind by now. I tried to put him together with Emil Fickel, who authors programs like EF >Commander, and also started out in OS/2. I thought they'd be a good fit. Brandon seemed open to the idea, but Emil didn't want to go >ahead with it. Guess he likes to do his own stuff. Maybe if enough of us lean on both of them, they'll see reason...:) >Going through another programmer like Emil would not be the same as a group effort, at least not if he was to sell it himself. The >prices he charges for his programs are really reasonable, and they are very handy utilities. I use a lot of them. Since he doesn't want >to take on updating PM Mail, maybe someone else would, if there could be some kind of arrangement made. >Time for me to go into my email archives on the outboard HDD (the archives I couldn't have made in any other program) and see what >exchanges I had over this issue a few years ago. >R. >On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:21:58 +0000, Philip Morgan wrote: >>Wasn't the Windows license/source code not for sale? >Richard Beeson >================= >richardelli at earthlink.net >Text-only (non-HTML) emails appreciated, >with separate attachments (no inline graphics). From aknash at sbcglobal.net Sat Mar 13 06:22:12 2010 From: aknash at sbcglobal.net (Keith Nash) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 23:22:12 -0600 Subject: [pmmail-list] Receiving Mail from GMail ? In-Reply-To: <100.60cc0500e9c59a4b.022@comcast.net> Message-ID: <288695.62436.qm@smtp104.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com> FWIW, I use stunnel under windows to attach to sbcglobal.net, config file attached On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:53:29 -0500 (EST), John C Humphrey wrote: >I don't believe so though as I said (I think) I haven't messed with the Windows Version of Stunnel (just researched it to prepare to get it going), but I see no reason it should not function the same as the OS/2 version. Somewhere on this list there should be people a lot more experienced with Stunnel than I. Perhaps I will get some time this weekend and finish setting up the Windows version to see how it goes. If I do I will post a .conf that works for me. > >John > > >On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:51:12 +0000 Philip Morgan wrote: >> >>Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! >> >>I read that and, for the first time, I'm beginning to think the "underlying principle" is beginning to come through. Though the article makes some references to Linux lingo, I presume the syntax and principles do not require Linux to work successfully? >> >>Other than installing recommended version of OpenSSL under Windows, does it require anything more than the appropriate Stunnel configuration to use it? >> >>- - Phil, from Palm Treo 755p >> using Palm Mail >> >>---- Original Message ---- >>From: "John C Humphrey" >>Date: 3/7/10 12:48 am >>To: "pmmail-list at blueprintsoftwareworks.com" >>Subj: [pmmail-list] Receiving Mail from GMail ? >>Try looking at also perhaps (though it involves a spam filter also). Essentially you need to set stunnel.conf to listen at an unused port with the "accept=" setting which is what you set PMMail to access and put the gmail severs & ports on the "connect=" line. So if under [pop3s] you have accept=127.0.0.1:11110 and connect=pop.gmail.com:995 then PMMail pop server is set to 127.0.0.1 port 11110. Similar for smtp as explained on the web pages. You do need to start stunnel before fetching or sending mail. It can also be installed as a service (explained on the spampal site) but as I understand it while stunnel is running it keeps its external ports open which could expose you to some security risk. >> >>John >> >> >>On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 20:57:38 -0500 Phil Morgan wrote: >>> >>>I have downloaded and installed the Windows binaries for Stunnel v4.31 >>>and OpenSSL v.9.8i. I'm at a loss about what to put into the stunnel >>>configuration file to make PMMail connect thru SSL to GMail. >>> >>>Anyone with stunnel experience that can help? I've read the FAQ at >>>Stunnel.org and am lost by the language and lack of a simple 'how-to" >>>description. I clearly don't know enough about the issues involved to >>>set up this file. >>> >>> - - Phil >>> >>>On 3/6/2010 5:25 PM, John C Humphrey wrote: >>>> The OS/2 version of PMMail is integrated with Stunnel to provide encryption support and that works with GMail. Perhaps you can try the Stunnel Windows binaries to provide an SSL tunnel to GMail. I have not tried it myself but it should work. >>>> >>>> John >>>> >>>> On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 14:52:46 -0500 Phil Morgan wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm a long time user of PMMail since it was PMMail98. Is it possible to >>>>> configure PMMail2KPro (v.2.20.2717) for Windows to download messages >>>>> >>>> >from my GMail account? I've tried all the available Authentication >>>> >>>>> settings and none work. >>>>> >>>>> Is there a way to create an SSL connection to use with PMMail as was >>>>> required to access GMail under Thunderbird? >>>>> >>>>> - - Phil Morgan, using Windows 7 Pro >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>> Keith Nash <<< "Against stupidity the very gods themselves contend in vain." -- Friedrich Schiller, 'Die Jungfrau von Orleans' -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks so much! - - Phil On 3/13/2010 12:22 AM, Keith Nash wrote: > FWIW, I use stunnel under windows to attach to sbcglobal.net, config > file attached > > On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:53:29 -0500 (EST), John C Humphrey wrote: > > >I don't believe so though as I said (I think) I haven't messed with > the Windows Version of Stunnel (just researched it to prepare to get > it going), but I see no reason it should not function the same as the > OS/2 version. Somewhere on this list there should be people a lot more > experienced with Stunnel than I. Perhaps I will get some time this > weekend and finish setting up the Windows version to see how it goes. > If I do I will post a .conf that works for me. > > > >John > > > > > >On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:51:12 +0000 Philip Morgan wrote: > >> > >>Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! > >> > >>I read that and, for the first time, I'm beginning to think the > "underlying principle" is beginning to come through. Though the > article makes some references to Linux lingo, I presume the syntax and > principles do not require Linux to work successfully? > >> > >>Other than installing recommended version of OpenSSL under Windows, > does it require anything more than the appropriate Stunnel > configuration to use it? > >> > >>- - Phil, from Palm Treo 755p > >> using Palm Mail > >> > >>---- Original Message ---- > >>From: "John C Humphrey" <_jchumphrey53 at comcast.net_> > >>Date: 3/7/10 12:48 am > >>To: "_pmmail-list at blueprintsoftwareworks.com_" > <_pmmail-list at blueprintsoftwareworks.com_> > >>Subj: [pmmail-list] Receiving Mail from GMail ? > >>Try looking at > <_http://www.sysadmin.md/how-to-access-gmail-smtppop3-service-with-stunnel.html_> > also perhaps > <_http://spampal.sanesecurity.com/manual_eng/servers/stunnel/stunnel.htm_> > (though it involves a spam filter also). Essentially you need to set > stunnel.conf to listen at an unused port with the "accept=" setting > which is what you set PMMail to access and put the gmail severs & > ports on the "connect=" line. So if under [pop3s] you have > accept=127.0.0.1:11110 and connect=pop.gmail.com:995 then PMMail pop > server is set to 127.0.0.1 port 11110. Similar for smtp as explained > on the web pages. You do need to start stunnel before fetching or > sending mail. It can also be installed as a service (explained on the > spampal site) but as I understand it while stunnel is running it keeps > its external ports open which could expose you to some security risk. > >> > >>John > >> > >> > >>On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 20:57:38 -0500 Phil Morgan wrote: > >>> > >>>I have downloaded and installed the Windows binaries for Stunnel v4.31 > >>>and OpenSSL v.9.8i. I'm at a loss about what to put into the stunnel > >>>configuration file to make PMMail connect thru SSL to GMail. > >>> > >>>Anyone with stunnel experience that can help? I've read the FAQ at > >>>Stunnel.org and am lost by the language and lack of a simple 'how-to" > >>>description. I clearly don't know enough about the issues involved to > >>>set up this file. > >>> > >>> - - Phil > >>> > >>>On 3/6/2010 5:25 PM, John C Humphrey wrote: > >>>> The OS/2 version of PMMail is integrated with Stunnel to provide > encryption support and that works with GMail. Perhaps you can try the > Stunnel Windows binaries to provide an SSL tunnel to GMail. I have not > tried it myself but it should work. > >>>> > >>>> John > >>>> > >>>> On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 14:52:46 -0500 Phil Morgan wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> I'm a long time user of PMMail since it was PMMail98. Is it > possible to > >>>>> configure PMMail2KPro (v.2.20.2717) for Windows to download messages > >>>>> > >>>> >from my GMail account? I've tried all the available Authentication > >>>> > >>>>> settings and none work. > >>>>> > >>>>> Is there a way to create an SSL connection to use with PMMail as was > >>>>> required to access GMail under Thunderbird? > >>>>> > >>>>> - - Phil Morgan, using Windows 7 Pro > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > >>> Keith Nash <<< > > "Against stupidity the very gods themselves contend in vain." -- Friedrich Schiller, 'Die Jungfrau von Orleans' -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.bawue.net/pipermail/pmmail/attachments/20100313/da61109b/attachment.html From PMorgan at attglobal.net Sat Mar 13 18:04:39 2010 From: PMorgan at attglobal.net (Philip Morgan) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:04:39 +0000 Subject: [pmmail-list] Support for updating PMMail2k Message-ID: <201003131704.o2DH4bw0016647@smtp2.suw.hosting-ops.com> So would I! Put me on the "early adopters" list! - - Phil, from Palm Treo 755p using Palm Mail ---- Original Message ---- From: "Matthew Nicoll" Date: 3/12/10 8:39 pm To: "pmmail-list at blueprintsoftwareworks.com" Subj: [pmmail-list] Receiving Mail from GMail ? I'd be willing to pay something to help encourage someone or some group to update PMMail for Windows! Matthew Nicoll Cypher Consulting On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:02:34 -0500, Richard Beeson wrote: >I believe it wasn't, but maybe he's changed his mind by now. I tried to put him together with Emil Fickel, who authors programs like EF >Commander, and also started out in OS/2. I thought they'd be a good fit. Brandon seemed open to the idea, but Emil didn't want to go >ahead with it. Guess he likes to do his own stuff. Maybe if enough of us lean on both of them, they'll see reason...:) >Going through another programmer like Emil would not be the same as a group effort, at least not if he was to sell it himself. The >prices he charges for his programs are really reasonable, and they are very handy utilities. I use a lot of them. Since he doesn't want >to take on updating PM Mail, maybe someone else would, if there could be some kind of arrangement made. >Time for me to go into my email archives on the outboard HDD (the archives I couldn't have made in any other program) and see what >exchanges I had over this issue a few years ago. >R. >On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:21:58 +0000, Philip Morgan wrote: >>Wasn't the Windows license/source code not for sale? >Richard Beeson >================= >richardelli at earthlink.net >Text-only (non-HTML) emails appreciated, >with separate attachments (no inline graphics). From dave at deezee.org Sat Mar 13 21:15:26 2010 From: dave at deezee.org (Dave Saville) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 20:15:26 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [pmmail-list] Receiving Mail from GMail ? In-Reply-To: <201003122221.o2CMLxDp025683@smtp1.suw.hosting-ops.com> References: <201003122221.o2CMLxDp025683@smtp1.suw.hosting-ops.com> Message-ID: <000.f03705005ef29b4b.002@deezee.org> On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:21:58 +0000 Philip Morgan wrote: >I was "up" for that years ago when an attempt was made. Wasn't the Windows license/source code not for sale? Correct. VOICE could only buy the OS/2 name, PMMail/2, and source code - and even that was not the then current version :-( Something about a disk crash..................... -- Regards Dave Saville From mlueck at lueckdatasystems.com Sat Mar 13 21:58:16 2010 From: mlueck at lueckdatasystems.com (Michael Lueck) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:58:16 -0500 Subject: [pmmail-list] Support for updating PMMail2k In-Reply-To: <201003131704.o2DH4bw0016647@smtp2.suw.hosting-ops.com> References: <201003131704.o2DH4bw0016647@smtp2.suw.hosting-ops.com> Message-ID: <4B9BFC68.3010606@lueckdatasystems.com> Greetings- Since TB3 is what it is, we might be looking for a place to move to. An effort would be needed to update the Windows code to be cross platform between Linux and Windows. Sincerely, -- Michael Lueck Lueck Data Systems http://www.lueckdatasystems.com/ From richard at biscount.com.au Sun Mar 14 06:06:01 2010 From: richard at biscount.com.au (Richard) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 16:06:01 +1100 Subject: [pmmail-list] Support for updating PMMail2k In-Reply-To: <4B9BFC68.3010606@lueckdatasystems.com> Message-ID: <8huvng$ob5qm@outbound-mail04.westnet.com.au> HI All If the code is to be updated - don't make the mistake of wanting it ALL now!! Just get the project moving and then add more later Many projects get lost with the "we MUST have" concept. The only thing we MUST have is an ongoing development project, if PMMAIL is not to eventually die! Then we can ALL put our wishes in (like a decent spell checker!) :) I hope PMMAIL does get developed future as it does have great potential. 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URL: http://lists.bawue.net/pipermail/pmmail/attachments/20100314/2ca52ebf/attachment.html From bxstover at yahoo.co.uk Sun Mar 14 10:55:39 2010 From: bxstover at yahoo.co.uk (Ben Stover) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 10:55:39 +0100 Subject: [pmmail-list] My working stunnel settings for GMail<--->PMMail Message-ID: <894070.60245.qm@smtp146.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> See below for my stunnel conf file (it works stable and reliable for years with GMAIL) PMMail receive setting: 127.0.0.1 1109 PMMail send setting: 127.0.0.1 259 Start stunnel with windows stunnel conf file: ; Sample stunnel configuration file by Michal Trojnara 2002-2006 ; Some options used here may not be adequate for your particular configuration ; Certificate/key is needed in server mode and optional in client mode ; The default certificate is provided only for testing and should not ; be used in a production environment cert = stunnel.pem ;key = stunnel.pem ; Some performance tunings socket = l:TCP_NODELAY=1 socket = r:TCP_NODELAY=1 ; Workaround for Eudora bug ;options = DONT_INSERT_EMPTY_FRAGMENTS ; Authentication stuff ;verify = 2 ; Don't forget to c_rehash CApath ;CApath = certs ; It's often easier to use CAfile ;CAfile = certs.pem ; Don't forget to c_rehash CRLpath ;CRLpath = crls ; Alternatively you can use CRLfile ;CRLfile = crls.pem ; Some debugging stuff useful for troubleshooting ;debug = 7 ;output = stunnel.log ; Use it for client mode client = yes ; Service-level configuration ; original: ; [pop3s] ; accept = 995 ; connect = 110 ; my adjustment: [pop3s] accept = 127.0.0.1:1109 connect = pop.gmail.com:995 [imaps] accept = 993 connect = 143 [ssmtp] accept = 465 connect = 25 ;[https] ;accept = 443 ;connect = 80 ;TIMEOUTclose = 0 ; my adjustment: [smtps] accept = 127.0.0.1:259 connect = smtp.gmail.com:465 ; vim:ft=dosini On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 20:57:38 -0500, Phil Morgan wrote: >I have downloaded and installed the Windows binaries for Stunnel v4.31 >and OpenSSL v.9.8i. I'm at a loss about what to put into the stunnel >configuration file to make PMMail connect thru SSL to GMail. >Anyone with stunnel experience that can help? I've read the FAQ at >Stunnel.org and am lost by the language and lack of a simple 'how-to" >description. I clearly don't know enough about the issues involved to >set up this file. > - - Phil >On 3/6/2010 5:25 PM, John C Humphrey wrote: >> The OS/2 version of PMMail is integrated with Stunnel to provide encryption support and that works with GMail. Perhaps you can try the Stunnel Windows binaries to provide an SSL tunnel to GMail. I have not tried it myself but it should work. >> >> John >> >> On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 14:52:46 -0500 Phil Morgan wrote: >> >>> I'm a long time user of PMMail since it was PMMail98. Is it possible to >>> configure PMMail2KPro (v.2.20.2717) for Windows to download messages >>> >> >from my GMail account? I've tried all the available Authentication >> >>> settings and none work. >>> >>> Is there a way to create an SSL connection to use with PMMail as was >>> required to access GMail under Thunderbird? >>> >>> - - Phil Morgan, using Windows 7 Pro >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> From bxstover at yahoo.co.uk Mon Mar 15 08:05:49 2010 From: bxstover at yahoo.co.uk (Ben Stover) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 08:05:49 +0100 Subject: [pmmail-list] My working stunnel settings for GMail<--->PMMail Message-ID: <550987.75463.qm@smtp147.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Hi Philip, Port 1105? I see no port 1105. It is good (best) practice to append a "9" at the end of the standard ports 110 and 25 and use them for local SSH entry. However this is not a must. If you want to use 995 then it is up to you. It should work as well. Ben On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 13:18:31 +0000, Philip Morgan wrote: >Thanks,Ben. >Why change PMMail to port 1105? Based on someone else's suggestion, I use 995 for both PMMail and sTunnel and it seems to work okay. >Regards, >- - Phil, from Palm Treo 755p > using Palm Mail >---- Original Message ---- >From: "Ben Stover" >Date: 3/14/10 5:56 am >To: "pmmail-list at blueprintsoftwareworks.com" >Cc: "Phil Morgan" >Subj: My working stunnel settings for GMail<--->PMMail >See below for my stunnel conf file (it works stable and reliable for years with GMAIL) >PMMail receive setting: >127.0.0.1 >1109 >PMMail send setting: >127.0.0.1 >259 >Start stunnel with windows >stunnel conf file: >; Sample stunnel configuration file by Michal Trojnara 2002-2006 >; Some options used here may not be adequate for your particular configuration >; Certificate/key is needed in server mode and optional in client mode >; The default certificate is provided only for testing and should not >; be used in a production environment >cert = stunnel.pem >;key = stunnel.pem >; Some performance tunings >socket = l:TCP_NODELAY=1 >socket = r:TCP_NODELAY=1 >; Workaround for Eudora bug >;options = DONT_INSERT_EMPTY_FRAGMENTS >; Authentication stuff >;verify = 2 >; Don't forget to c_rehash CApath >;CApath = certs >; It's often easier to use CAfile >;CAfile = certs.pem >; Don't forget to c_rehash CRLpath >;CRLpath = crls >; Alternatively you can use CRLfile >;CRLfile = crls.pem >; Some debugging stuff useful for troubleshooting >;debug = 7 >;output = stunnel.log >; Use it for client mode >client = yes >; Service-level configuration >; original: >; [pop3s] >; accept = 995 >; connect = 110 >; my adjustment: >[pop3s] >accept = 127.0.0.1:1109 >connect = pop.gmail.com:995 >[imaps] >accept = 993 >connect = 143 >[ssmtp] >accept = 465 >connect = 25 >;[https] >;accept = 443 >;connect = 80 >;TIMEOUTclose = 0 >; my adjustment: >[smtps] >accept = 127.0.0.1:259 >connect = smtp.gmail.com:465 >; vim:ft=dosini >On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 20:57:38 -0500, Phil Morgan wrote: >>I have downloaded and installed the Windows binaries for Stunnel v4.31 >>and OpenSSL v.9.8i. I'm at a loss about what to put into the stunnel >>configuration file to make PMMail connect thru SSL to GMail. >>Anyone with stunnel experience that can help? I've read the FAQ at >>Stunnel.org and am lost by the language and lack of a simple 'how-to" >>description. I clearly don't know enough about the issues involved to >>set up this file. >> - - Phil >>On 3/6/2010 5:25 PM, John C Humphrey wrote: >>> The OS/2 version of PMMail is integrated with Stunnel to provide encryption support and that works with GMail. Perhaps you can try the Stunnel >Windows binaries to provide an SSL tunnel to >GMail. I have not tried it myself but it should work. >>> >>> John >>> >>> On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 14:52:46 -0500 Phil Morgan wrote: >>> >>>> I'm a long time user of PMMail since it was PMMail98. Is it possible to >>>> configure PMMail2KPro (v.2.20.2717) for Windows to download messages >>>> >>> >from my GMail account? I've tried all the available Authentication >>> >>>> settings and none work. >>>> >>>> Is there a way to create an SSL connection to use with PMMail as was >>>> required to access GMail under Thunderbird? >>>> >>>> - - Phil Morgan, using Windows 7 Pro >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> From glisten at witworx.com Sat Mar 20 07:37:29 2010 From: glisten at witworx.com (Rod Whitworth) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:37:29 +1100 Subject: [pmmail-list] Recent request from ??? for a way to do more recent mail Message-ID: <20100320063730.4394513095@mail.witworx.com> Sometime in the last few weeks I saw a message on this list about getting an updated version of PMmail that could handle some of the more .. modern... mail "features". I had no real answer at the time and the trash emptying function has done its job. BUT if the person needing this can see this message, I believe that Claws may meet his needs. There is a windows port at http://www.claws-mail.org/win32/index.php and general clues can be garnered at pages linked to http://www.claws-mail.org/ Specifically it uses MH (individual file/message) by default and will import from mbox and maildir IIRC. HTH, HAND, Rod/ Please reply on-list. I subscribed. Mail to the sender address coming from other than list servers in my filter will be tarpitted for 24 hours after every attempt. PMmail provides a Reply-To: function. That works if you really must reply off-list. R/ Rod/ >From the land "down under": Australia. Do we look from up over? From jrace at attglobal.net Tue Mar 23 05:04:08 2010 From: jrace at attglobal.net (Jeffrey Race) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 00:04:08 -0400 Subject: [pmmail-list] Can't decode attachments from MS Exchange mail clients Message-ID: Using PMMail 2000 Pro I find that I cannot access attachments due to a miscoding of the boundary marker line. Has anyone else seen this? What is known about this? I have to manually recode the header of the incoming mail to access the base64-encoded attachment. Jeffrey Race From richardelli at earthlink.net Tue Mar 23 06:04:30 2010 From: richardelli at earthlink.net (Richard Beeson) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 01:04:30 -0400 Subject: [pmmail-list] Can't decode attachments from MS Exchange mail clients In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Does the attachment have an "ATT" extension? If it does, I have found two ways of dealing with it. One is to use the old ver. 5 of Aladdin Expander to unzip it to the desktop, which opens up the elements. (Aladdin has to be set as the default program for ATT files in the Folder Options). The other is to do the same thing with a program called Quick View Plus. It used to come with Corel Wordperfect Products as a bonus piece of software. It opens files like this for reading, but not editing. Don't know if they still provide it. A third way is to go outside PMMail. I note the folder location and time the file was saved, then navigate to it in Thunderbird, and use the "Open saved file" option in Thunderbird. These days it's about the only thing I use Thunderbird for, and obviously you have to install it to be able to do this, if it isn't already on your system. Tbird looks for files with an EML extension. You have to tell it to look for all files (*.*). I also use this method for messages loaded up with inline graphics. Fortunately, enough people seem to have squawked about that fad that fewer of those come in anymore. Hardly any, in fact. This last should work whether or not the file attachment is an ATT file in PMMail. Hope this helps. Kludgy workarounds all, but they do work. On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 00:04:08 -0400, Jeffrey Race wrote: >Using PMMail 2000 Pro I find that I cannot access >attachments due to a miscoding of the boundary >marker line. Has anyone else seen this? What is >known about this? I have to manually recode >the header of the incoming mail to access the >base64-encoded attachment. >Jeffrey Race Richard Beeson ================= richardelli at earthlink.net Text-only (non-HTML) emails appreciated, with separate attachments (no inline graphics). From yendor.loki3 at gmail.com Tue Mar 23 06:46:25 2010 From: yendor.loki3 at gmail.com (Rod Whitworth) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 16:46:25 +1100 Subject: [pmmail-list] I've lost a message where somebody wanted help Message-ID: <4BA855B1.3080300@gmail.com> Recently I saw a message on this list from somebody wanting an email client that stored messages in individual files like PMmail but could deal with some of the modern abbera^Wadditions in messages. That message got deleted before I had a chance to reply. Fat finger problem I guess. If the sender can restate his needs I'll see if what I have in mind would possibly prove useful. 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