PGP: sequencing messages

[Trevor Smith]

On Wed, 5 Apr 2000 10:03:52 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:

>    Erm, you need to read exactly what is written.  Remember that little game
>where you line up a bunch of kids, tell the first in line a story, have them
>pass it along and see what comes out the other side?

:-)

>    He said "server", it says "host".  A big difference between those words.

Indeed. Fair enough.

>    The SMTP server is not the only thing which can generate it.  PMMail
>itself can generate it like nearly every other MUA in existence, every
>newsreader (you are aware that news is based in RFC822, right?), and every
>Fido-Net Technology reader?

OK, if that's the case, then that's the case.

>    No, it is not, it is failing to generate a MSGID on its own as it should.

:-) Now you're playing the word game. First you said PMMail "can"
generate IDs, now you suddenly conclude that it "should".

I agree that it would be convenient for those who want to see the
message ID in their outbox. Otherwise I can't think of any argument
why it "should" do it, since it's obviously taken care of by SMTP
servers if PMMail/2 neglects to do it.

>    Uhm, no.  The SMTP server doesn't know it is a bounce and therefore cannot
>assign a new MSGID.  Since it is a new version of the message it is up to
>PMMail to move the current MSGID to resent and generate a new one.

OK, I don't know that it's the SMTP server but since PMMail/2
apparently doesn't assign message IDs when it originally sends
messages, I assume it's not PMMail/2 assigning the Resent-Message-ID
when it bounces it. This is what happens:

I send a message with PMMail/2. I receive the message in PMMail/2,
and it has this message ID:

Message-Id: <200004051724.OAA02823@jupiter.accesscable.net>

I then bounce the received message with PMMail/2 and receive it
again. The message now has these two lines in it:

Resent-Message-Id: <200004051725.OAA03081@jupiter.accesscable.net>
Message-Id: <200004051724.OAA02823@jupiter.accesscable.net>

Subsequent bounces and receives in PMMail/2 do not add any more lines
with the word "message" in them.


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