[pmmail-list] Outward filter needed

Tim Roberts pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com
Tue, 27 Aug 2002 13:12:55 -0700


On Tue, 27 Aug 2002 20:43:57 +0200 (MES), L.Willms wrote:

>On Tue, 27 Aug 2002 10:35:14 -0700, Tim Roberts wrote:
>
>On Replying to a mailing list which doesnt set the proper Reply-to: 
>
>> >The easiest workaround is to use "Reply to all" (Ctrl-Alt-R) instead of 
>> >"Reply" (Ctrl-R) and to delete the sender's address from the recipients
>> >list, if you don't want the sender to receive an additional copy of that
>> >mail. 
>> 
>> Actually, that wouldn't help in this case.  In the sample he posted, the 
>> "From:" and "Reply-To:" addresses were BOTH set to the message author. 
>> The list address was in a non-standard "Sender:" header.  PMMail never 
>> looks at a "Sender:" header, no matter what buttons you press.
>
>It shouldn't even in this case. Reply-to-all creates a reply to all 
>RECIPIENTS ...

...PLUS the sender.  Reply sends to just the sender, Reply-to-all adds all 
the recipients.  It is the definition of "sender" that causes the problem 
here.

>and the main one is the "To:" header which is the name of the 
>mailing list, if it is not on the "CC:" list. 

Not necessarily.  The "To:" address is often just a fake, like "Recipient 
list suppressed".

>Your would certainly never want to send a message to the "sender" which is 
>probably some automatic agent.

That's just not true.  The Sender: header is supposed to indicate the valid 
mailbox of the person/bot that actually transmitted the message.

>I not even know if "Sender:" is a valid 
>RFC-822-header, I know it only from NetNews. 

It's easy enough to look it up.  Anyone interested enough in e-mail to be 
part of this list should probably have a copy on their bookshelf.

"Sender" is indeed a valid RFC-2822 header.  In fact, its use is encouraged 
if the person who SENT the message is different from the person who WROTE the 
message.

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- Tim Roberts, timr@probo.com
  Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.

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