[pmmail-list] Spam -- your definition

[Marty Rimpau]

Hi, I think that spam is any message or group of messages that come to
your inbox that you didn't specifically request.  Now, don't want to
upset people on the list, but I am a blind user, and I find it very
hard to read messages that say on thursday, on Wednesday, etc., why not
just let the threads run, because it gets confusing when parts of
messages are quoted, and I might miss some important information.  I
personally don't feel that in order to be on a list, that one has to go
along, in order to get along, and maybe some people have configured pm
mail to quote the quote, but when this happens over and over again, my
personal feeling is that people might as well start forwarding messages
to the list, with all the forwarding headers, and greater than signs in
tact, which I pass over, because I don't care about who sent what to
who, just my personal opinion, and a curiosity.   On Thu, 30 May 2002
11:29:00 -0700 (PDT), Dave Hathaway wrote:

>I got back from lunch and was surprised to find 50 or so messages in
>my PMMail list box.  Whoa!
>
>[snip]
>> Some people say that "spam" is (1) unsolicited (2) bulk (3)
>> commercial email that is (4) fraudulent and/or (5) does not contain
>> any real contact info or method of demanding that the contact stop.
>> Personally I like that definition because it gives us a target that
>> we can all agree should be prevented.
>> 
>> Which definition do you use?
>
>After reading all the messages thus far, I want to point out an
>earlier technology that was affected like email is now: junk faxes. 
>When fax technology was new, bulk faxers sprung up, wasting countless
>rolls of expensive thermal fax paper.  Eventually this was recognized
>as a un-asked-for waste of the receivers' resources and laws were
>emplaced.  Now I rarely get unsolicited commercial faxes.
>
>I think email spam is like junk faxes.  I don't much care if it is
>fraudulent or if it doesn't contain contact information.  It is
>wasting my resources, it is costing me money (I bill at $190/hour or
>so and even a minute wasted is money).  I now am using Yahoo Mail and
>am constantly getting bugged to buy more space because I get so much
>spam (and those stupid HTML viruses *sigh*).
>
>I don't buy the theory that spam is using significant resources in
>transmission.  Has anyone ever seen the figures on USENET usage?  How
>many spam messages could fit inside one porn video clip?
>
>OK, so that's the end of my tirade.  To answer the original question,
>I think 1-3 defines spam, with 4 and 5 removing any remaining amount
>of gray area.
>
>Dave
>
>
>
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