[pmmail-list] HELO - Not...Re: Another new beta 2627 posted

[Rich]

On Thu, 05 Sep 2002 07:42:05 +0200 (MES), L.Willms wrote:

>On Wed, 04 Sep 2002 22:50:24 -0400, Rich wrote:
>
>> HELO being the same from two different accounts on the same computer =
is the 
>whole point. 
>> Not only do I have a half dozen different 'domains' that I send/recei=
ve 
>from, but I work for a 
>> company from here (as opposed to 'there'). When I send an e-mail from=
 that 
>company account, 
>> it would be better for the e-mail to reflect that. 
>
>   You are mixing up SMTP (RFC 2821), the mail transport, with its Mail=
 
>Transfer Agents, and the MAIL document, with its authors, originators, =

>senders, recipients, etc. 


Maybe, but I was just replying to the refered RFC-821. I've now gotten R=
FC-2821 and read 
through that one...

>
>
>   Well, the letter rule is not practical, in my opinion, for all the p=
rivate 
>PCs and SOHO networks which link to the Internet via a dial-up connecti=
on and 
>which do not have names assigned in the domain name system. The IP addr=
ess, 
>which I have given my PC in my local net, which is given as an alternat=
ive in 
>section 3.6 of RFC 2821 is not a sensible alternative, in my humble opi=
nion. 


I completely agree. Looks like the people responsible for this RFC have =
totally ignored the fact 
that most common users have dial-up connections and have no way to add a=
 EHLO domain 
that can be traced back to them and registered with IANA...


>
>   But anyway, If the SMTP client would read the sender's address and u=
se the 
>domain part of that as the domain in the EHLO command, this would resul=
t quite 
>confusing e.g. in the case of the several million clients of T-Online w=
hich 
>would all identify themselves as "EHLO t-online.de", and this vis =E0 v=
is the 
>T-Online mail servers. Can't make sense, right? 
>


I really don't think so. True, it may be more confusing to have a millio=
n "t-online.de" for the 
EHLO, but what would those million customers have as PC names, which are=
 totally 
meaningless in the first place. And they can change those name any time =
they wish. How many 
Dell customers are sending out the default "Preffered Customer" that Del=
l installs on their 
boxes? In light of the new RFC, it looks like the great writers of the r=
ules have messed up this 
time...

On the bright side, I may have just solved one of my complaints with PMM=
ail. All I have to do is 
rename my computer to "Preferred Customer" and I'll just look like one o=
f the millions of Dell 
machines on the net ;-)

Thanks for the info!

Rich...



>    Find RFCs at http://www.rfc-editor.org/
>
>Yours, 
>L=FCko Willms
>-----------------------------------------------
>Frankfurt/Main  
>


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