[pmmail-list] [mkc] How to open attachments
Larry Alkoff
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Tue, 29 Jun 2004 10:15:15 -0500
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Several things Mike.
First I opened your jpg file by the usual method of saving to disk and opening with (in my case)
Magellan Explorer.
When I open use alt-v it doesn't look _anything_ like your jpg.
There is no title bar (blue or colored border on top, name of prog and X button) at all.
There is no menu bar.
The only thing I see with alt-v is text in the message body window.
Second, I renamed notepad.exe, wordpad.exe and quikview.exe to names that PMMail would not know to run.
Alt-v still works which suggests that PMMail is using some other way to view the attachments, possibly a built-in viewer/editor.
I also conclude that User Hooks are not involved in alt-v viewing.
Finally I renamed npad.exe back to notepad.exe and opened a text attachment with Attachment | Open and what do you know,
notepad came up with a title bar saying Notepad and everything! Seems like it's working now and perhaps alt-v is not necessary for anything that notepad
can handle.
I'll use alt-v only in cases where notepad barfs.
I'll continue to experiment but if I can open attachments by Attachment | Open or clicking I'm going to be a much happier camper.
My final question - are we clear that notepad will not run executables? I _think_ so but being wrong could cause
a lot of problems. Your opinion?
Thanks very much for your help.
Larry Alkoff
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From: Mike Kilroy
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 07:15:22 -0400
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From: Larry Alkoff
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 19:17:51 -0500
I tried to change quikview.exe to notepad.exe per Mike's instructions below and am not sure if it's working or not.
Pmmailw.ini still lists c:\windows\system\viewers\quikview.exe
and I cannot tell by opening an attachment which program is doing it.
When I look at user hooks, notepad is listed but why doesn't it appear in any ini file?
Notepad is not under any registry item with pmmail either.
How could I test to tell if is in fact notepad opening the attachment?
An important question brought up by my wife (who I have taught to _never_ open attachments)
is: will either quikview.exe or notepad.exe ever run executables?
Larry Alkoff
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From: Mike Kilroy
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 08:32:58 -0400
not sure if an answer was given- erased the other responces too quick.
I changed quickview.exe to C:\WINDOWS\NOTEPAD.EXE [ pmmail tab, properties, user hooks, default attachment] so I can
see the .att files (usually notes about returned mail that cannot go thru). It is important to see these as they tell the problem with
why the email did not go thru.
On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 19:03:27 -0500, Larry Alkoff wrote:
>On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 19:43:59 -0400, Steve Ewing wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 15:24:28 -0500, Larry Alkoff wrote:
>>
>>>I frequently get messages with a nearly blank body
>>>that contain an attachment named "Unnamed attachment 1.att.
>>>
>>>Are these MIME messages?
>>>
>>>Quikview.exe is listed by path in pmmailw.ini but says it cannot open the attachments.
>>>I have been saving the attachments, renaming and viewing with a list program.
>>>
>>>Is there an easier way to open these attachments?
>>>Is there a way to change the default name to something easier like "1.att"?
>>>Is there a way to change the default viewer from quikview.exe to something else?
>>>
>>>Larry Alkoff
>>
>>Just use Alt-V, or Tools-> View full message, and you will be able to
>>see the attachment as text.
>
>Thanks Steve for the tip about alt-v.
>I didn't know about that.
>
>
> If it is not readable, you will at least
>>be able to pull the type from the MIME header and rename it
>>appropriately so the right app will open it.
>
>
>I don't understand this part.
>What app would open a PMMail message?
>How do I even know which filename to look for?
>
>Larry
>
>
>
>Larry Alkoff N2LA - Austin TX
>
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<BR>
First I opened your jpg file by the usual method of saving to disk and opening with (in my case)<BR>
Magellan Explorer.<BR>
<BR>
When I open use alt-v it doesn't look _anything_ like your jpg.<BR>
There is no title bar (blue or colored border on top, name of prog and X button) at all.<BR>
There is no menu bar.<BR>
The only thing I see with alt-v is text in the message body window.<BR>
<BR>
Second, I renamed notepad.exe, wordpad.exe and quikview.exe to names that PMMail would not know to run.<BR>
Alt-v still works which suggests that PMMail is using some other way to view the attachments, possibly a built-in viewer/editor.<BR>
I also conclude that User Hooks are not involved in alt-v viewing.<BR>
<BR>
Finally I renamed npad.exe back to notepad.exe and opened a text attachment with Attachment | Open and what do you know,<BR>
notepad came up with a title bar saying Notepad and everything! Seems like it's working now and perhaps alt-v is not necessary for anything that notepad<BR>
can handle.<BR>
<BR>
I'll use alt-v only in cases where notepad barfs.<BR>
I'll continue to experiment but if I can open attachments by Attachment | Open or clicking I'm going to be a much happier camper.<BR>
<BR>
My final question - are we clear that notepad will not run executables? I _think_ so but being wrong could cause<BR>
a lot of problems. Your opinion?<BR>
<BR>
Thanks very much for your help.<BR>
Larry Alkoff<BR>
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<B>From:</B> Mike Kilroy<BR>
<B>Date:</B> Tue, 29 Jun 2004 07:15:22 -0400<BR>
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<B>From:</B> Larry Alkoff<BR>
<B>Date:</B> Mon, 28 Jun 2004 19:17:51 -0500<BR>
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<FONT SIZE="1" POINTSIZE="8" DEFAULT="SIZE">I tried to change quikview.exe to notepad.exe per Mike's instructions below and am not sure if it's working or not.<BR>
<BR>
Pmmailw.ini still lists c:\windows\system\viewers\quikview.exe<BR>
and I cannot tell by opening an attachment which program is doing it.<BR>
<BR>
When I look at user hooks, notepad is listed but why doesn't it appear in any ini file?<BR>
Notepad is not under any registry item with pmmail either.<BR>
<BR>
How could I test to tell if is in fact notepad opening the attachment?<BR>
<BR>
An important question brought up by my wife (who I have taught to _never_ open attachments)<BR>
is: will either quikview.exe or notepad.exe ever run executables?<BR>
<BR>
Larry Alkoff<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
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<B>From:</B> Mike Kilroy<BR>
<B>Date:</B> Mon, 28 Jun 2004 08:32:58 -0400<BR>
<BR>
<FONT SIZE="2" POINTSIZE="10">not sure if an answer was given- erased the other responces too quick. <BR>
<BR>
I changed quickview.exe to C:\WINDOWS\NOTEPAD.EXE [ pmmail tab, properties, user hooks, default attachment] so I can see the .att files (usually notes about returned mail that cannot go thru). It is important to see these as they tell the problem with why the email did not go thru.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 19:03:27 -0500, Larry Alkoff wrote:<BR>
<BR>
>On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 19:43:59 -0400, Steve Ewing wrote:<BR>
><BR>
>>On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 15:24:28 -0500, Larry Alkoff wrote:<BR>
>><BR>
>>>I frequently get messages with a nearly blank body<BR>
>>>that contain an attachment named "Unnamed attachment 1.att.<BR>
>>><BR>
>>>Are these MIME messages?<BR>
>>><BR>
>>>Quikview.exe is listed by path in pmmailw.ini but says it cannot open the attachments.<BR>
>>>I have been saving the attachments, renaming and viewing with a list program.<BR>
>>><BR>
>>>Is there an easier way to open these attachments?<BR>
>>>Is there a way to change the default name to something easier like "1.att"?<BR>
>>>Is there a way to change the default viewer from quikview.exe to something else?<BR>
>>><BR>
>>>Larry Alkoff<BR>
>><BR>
>>Just use Alt-V, or Tools-> View full message, and you will be able to<BR>
>>see the attachment as text. <BR>
><BR>
>Thanks Steve for the tip about alt-v.<BR>
>I didn't know about that.<BR>
><BR>
><BR>
> If it is not readable, you will at least<BR>
>>be able to pull the type from the MIME header and rename it<BR>
>>appropriately so the right app will open it.<BR>
><BR>
><BR>
>I don't understand this part.<BR>
>What app would open a PMMail message?<BR>
>How do I even know which filename to look for?<BR>
><BR>
>Larry<BR>
><BR>
><BR>
><BR>
>Larry Alkoff N2LA - Austin TX<BR>
><BR>
><BR>
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