[pmmail-list] SMB directly on TCP/IP: SAMBA (was: Exporting fromm PMM to Outlook?)

[Milan Mastnak]

Yes, authentications should be backward compatible (ie. Lan Manager) oth=
erwise you won't be able to logon 
from OS/2 to the Win2003 server. Win2003 uses Kerberos by default which =
isn't supported by OS/2. It might be 
with Samba port, but it isn't bollet proof yet (AFAIK).

Best regards,
Milan



On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 22:12:35 +0100 (MEZ), L.Willms wrote:

>On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 11:51:14 -0800, Don Buska wrote:
>
>> I'm confused.  I've always been under the impression that NETBIOS and=

>> NETBEUI were essentially the same.  MS calls it NETBEUI and IBM calls=

>> it NETBIOS. 
>
>  Not exactly: 
>  
>  NETBIOS =3D NETwork Basic Input Output System
>  NETBEUI =3D NETBIps Extended User Interface 
>
>  True is that both names quite often are used interchangeble. 
>
>> You can have NETBIOS (MPTS) over TCPIP (TCPIP) on the OS/2 side
>> and NETBEUI on the server side and all works fine for file services. =
 
>
>  You would need also NETBIOS over TCP/IP at the Windows server side. 
>
>> I've done it for years.  
>> I may have both NETBIOS and NETBIOS over TCPIP running, 
>> but some say the NETBIOS alone really isn't needed.  
>
>  I think I start to understand the problem ..  
>
>  NETBIOS is not only a transport protocol, but is also used, as 
>developed back then by IBM, Microsoft and 3COM, directly as network 
>protocol, acessing directly the MAC layer. Different from Novell's IPX =

>though, and TCP/IP, NETBIOS cannot be routed, but is limited to a singl=
e 
>segment of a LAN. As a result, when the LAN is composed of more than on=
e 
>segment and linked via routers, NETBIOS needs to be transported either =

>via IPX or via TCP/IP. 
>
>   The actual file and print services are carried in SMB, short for 
>Server Message Blocks. 
>
>   Now Microsoft has devised a means to use SMB without the NETBIOS 
>layer underneath it directly on TCP/IP. This is not supported, as far a=
s 
>I know, on OS/2. 
>
>> My problem is I no longer have NETBEUI on the server side with 
>> their new WIN2003 servers.  So my OS/2 machine will no longer see the=
 
>> drive/folders/files on the server.
>
>   They would just have to use the NetBT for backward compability with =

>older Windows systems, and OS/2... 
>
>> My problem is with NETBEUI gone from the WIN servers 
>> OS/2 is no longer a viable client in the MS world.
>
>   Well, it would, if you install SAMBA on your OS/2 machine. Have a 
>look at http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/ or download it directly from 
>> http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/apps/internet/util/samba.zip
>  or
>> ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/apps/internet/util/samba.zip
>
>
>
>Yours,
>L=FCko Willms
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>Frankfurt/Main  
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