[pmmail-list] [mkc] pm mail problem for Brandon
Mike Kilroy
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not sure if I can email an jpg of my norton-2004/popfile/pmmail to the list, so am just sending a second email direct to you.
I have had to put the 127.0.0.1 in since the old norton, including the new 2004 as far as I know. It does work here this way
anyway. Could be I had to do this for popfile though now that I think of it.... Since you are having issues, perhaps you could
download popfile and use it as an inbetween to see if it solves your problem. I am not sure how anyone uses email anymore
without a spam filter like popfile anyway. PS; it is free at http://popfile.sourceforge.net/
On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 17:20:59 -0800, Marty Rimpau wrote:
>Hi, Steve, I don't know how to telnet, and ever since Norton 2002, you
>didn't have to use 127.0.0.1 unlike Norton 2000, and Norton 2001. In
>Norton 2001, it would show what email clients were detected, and you
>had to use 127.0.0.1 as the pop server, because 2001 didn't recognize
>pm mail, but in Norton 2004, there isn't any way, to my knowledge, to
>see what email clients are detected, but it apparently recognizes pm
>mail, so with this in mind, what do I put in the fields in receive in
>2004? I'll keep your message, but I don't know how to telnet, because
>I'm not a systems iengineer or programmer like the ones on the list.
>On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 19:35:16 -0500, Steve Marvin wrote:
>>Not Brandon, but ...
>>
>>If I remember correctly, Norton acts as a *relay* for port 110 (pop3).
>>It *pops* the mail from your isp's mailserver, filters it and passes
>>the clean one's off to the mail client (in your case PMMAIL)
>>when PMMAIL calls in on port 110.
>>
>>So with norton enabled, your PMMAIL setup (Receive page - POP) should
>>point to 127.0.0.1 so that pmmail can log into norton and get the
>>mail messages that are not virus ridden.
>>
>>With norton disabled your PMMAIL setup (Receive page - POP) should
>>point to your isp's mailserver, and get all the mail unfiltered.
>>
>>This probably explains the 10061 you are seeing when norton is
>>disabled. It is not enough to just turn off norton, you must
>>tell PMMAIL that it should connect directly to your ISP.
>>
>>If you enable norton, and pmmail is trying to pop the messages
>>from norton and having problems. Try this - when the problem
>>is occurring and when it is not -
>>
>> telnet 127.0.0.1 25 (windows)
>> telnet 127.0.0.1 -p 25 (os/2 - I believe)
>>
>>You should see a banner message from the norton software, if
>>you do not it is a problem with norton I would think.
>>
>>On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 14:55:58 -0800, Marty Rimpau wrote:
>>
>>>Hi, Brandon, sorry to change the subject, but I've written to the
>>>support address, and this list, and have not gotten a satisfactory
>>>answer to my problem, and that is, that I just upgraded to Norton 2004
>>>about a month ago, and my receiving mail has been speratic. If Norton
>>>email scanning is disabled, I get error 10061 messages when it is
>>>trying to fetch mail, but with Norton email scanning enabled, I get
>>>error check error log messages, when in fact, something is happening
>>>where it can't connect to the server, and when this happens, pressing
>>>f2 continually gives me error check error log messages until the
>>>problem is resolved. I even tried going back to version 2696, from
>>>version 2717, and I still get error messages, and I can't reach anyone
>>>because the 1-800 number has been disconnected, and this is very
>>>frustrating, because I never know when it's going to happen, and so I
>>>thought it was the dropbox folder, which I deleted from the .acct
>>>folder, but that didn't do it, and when this happens, it's as if the
>>>server goes down, or, port 110 is being blocked some how, and I wonder
>>>what could be causing this problem, when I contacted tech support at my
>>>provider, and they said they didn't support pm mail, and said that the
>>>servers were working fine, and symantec charges $29 per incident, and
>>>to me, it's not practical to pay that for every question you have, and
>>>programming types on the list have said that my Norton is messed up,
>>>but it seems that if that were true, symantec would have been aware of
>>>it by now, and offered a patch, or something to remmedy the situation.
>>>I don't have any problem sending mail, but I can be receiving mail, and
>>>then all of a sudden, it just goes down for 10 minutes, and with Norton
>>>2001, I never had this problem, so what can I do? On Mon, 29 Mar 2004
>>>17:04:09 -0500, Blueprint Software wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 22:43:48 +0100 (MEZ), Tobias Huerlimann wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I wonder if anyone has any news concerning the release of the source code
>>>>>of PMMail/2 at SourceForge? I realize that Brandon told us he'd post any
>>>>>news here as soon as he gets the source code from the developer. But that
>>>>>was more than two month ago, so I'm curious about what the current
>>>>>situation is like.
>>>>
>>>>Just to update everyone, I am in fact still awaiting the source code
>>>>from Peter. He has been extremely busy getting the next release of
>>>>PMView ready for the past few weeks. At any rate, I will send another
>>>>nudge his way and see if we can't get something moving on SourceForge
>>>>sooner rather than later. As always, anything new will be posted here
>>>>first!
>>>>
>>>>Thanks!
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Brandon King
>>>>brandonk@blueprintsoftwareworks.com
>>>>www.blueprintsoftwareworks.com
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>>
>>
>>
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<FONT SIZE="2" POINTSIZE="10" DEFAULT="SIZE">not sure if I can email an jpg of my norton-2004/popfile/pmmail to the list, so am just sending a second email direct to you.<BR>
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I have had to put the 127.0.0.1 in since the old norton, including the new 2004 as far as I know. It does work here this way anyway. Could be I had to do this for popfile though now that I think of it.... Since you are having issues, perhaps you could download popfile and use it as an inbetween to see if it solves your problem. I am not sure how anyone uses email anymore without a spam filter like popfile anyway. PS; it is free at http://popfile.sourceforge.net/<BR>
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On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 17:20:59 -0800, Marty Rimpau wrote:<BR>
<BR>
>Hi, Steve, I don't know how to telnet, and ever since Norton 2002, you<BR>
>didn't have to use 127.0.0.1 unlike Norton 2000, and Norton 2001. In<BR>
>Norton 2001, it would show what email clients were detected, and you<BR>
>had to use 127.0.0.1 as the pop server, because 2001 didn't recognize<BR>
>pm mail, but in Norton 2004, there isn't any way, to my knowledge, to<BR>
>see what email clients are detected, but it apparently recognizes pm<BR>
>mail, so with this in mind, what do I put in the fields in receive in<BR>
>2004? I'll keep your message, but I don't know how to telnet, because<BR>
>I'm not a systems iengineer or programmer like the ones on the list. <BR>
>On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 19:35:16 -0500, Steve Marvin wrote:<BR>
><BR>
>>Not Brandon, but ...<BR>
>><BR>
>>If I remember correctly, Norton acts as a *relay* for port 110 (pop3).<BR>
>>It *pops* the mail from your isp's mailserver, filters it and passes<BR>
>>the clean one's off to the mail client (in your case PMMAIL)<BR>
>>when PMMAIL calls in on port 110.<BR>
>><BR>
>>So with norton enabled, your PMMAIL setup (Receive page - POP) should<BR>
>>point to 127.0.0.1 so that pmmail can log into norton and get the<BR>
>>mail messages that are not virus ridden.<BR>
>><BR>
>>With norton disabled your PMMAIL setup (Receive page - POP) should<BR>
>>point to your isp's mailserver, and get all the mail unfiltered.<BR>
>><BR>
>>This probably explains the 10061 you are seeing when norton is<BR>
>>disabled. It is not enough to just turn off norton, you must<BR>
>>tell PMMAIL that it should connect directly to your ISP.<BR>
>><BR>
>>If you enable norton, and pmmail is trying to pop the messages<BR>
>>from norton and having problems. Try this - when the problem<BR>
>>is occurring and when it is not -<BR>
>><BR>
>> telnet 127.0.0.1 25 (windows)<BR>
>> telnet 127.0.0.1 -p 25 (os/2 - I believe)<BR>
>><BR>
>>You should see a banner message from the norton software, if<BR>
>>you do not it is a problem with norton I would think.<BR>
>><BR>
>>On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 14:55:58 -0800, Marty Rimpau wrote:<BR>
>><BR>
>>>Hi, Brandon, sorry to change the subject, but I've written to the<BR>
>>>support address, and this list, and have not gotten a satisfactory<BR>
>>>answer to my problem, and that is, that I just upgraded to Norton 2004<BR>
>>>about a month ago, and my receiving mail has been speratic. If Norton<BR>
>>>email scanning is disabled, I get error 10061 messages when it is<BR>
>>>trying to fetch mail, but with Norton email scanning enabled, I get<BR>
>>>error check error log messages, when in fact, something is happening<BR>
>>>where it can't connect to the server, and when this happens, pressing<BR>
>>>f2 continually gives me error check error log messages until the<BR>
>>>problem is resolved. I even tried going back to version 2696, from<BR>
>>>version 2717, and I still get error messages, and I can't reach anyone<BR>
>>>because the 1-800 number has been disconnected, and this is very<BR>
>>>frustrating, because I never know when it's going to happen, and so I<BR>
>>>thought it was the dropbox folder, which I deleted from the .acct<BR>
>>>folder, but that didn't do it, and when this happens, it's as if the<BR>
>>>server goes down, or, port 110 is being blocked some how, and I wonder<BR>
>>>what could be causing this problem, when I contacted tech support at my<BR>
>>>provider, and they said they didn't support pm mail, and said that the<BR>
>>>servers were working fine, and symantec charges $29 per incident, and<BR>
>>>to me, it's not practical to pay that for every question you have, and<BR>
>>>programming types on the list have said that my Norton is messed up,<BR>
>>>but it seems that if that were true, symantec would have been aware of<BR>
>>>it by now, and offered a patch, or something to remmedy the situation. <BR>
>>>I don't have any problem sending mail, but I can be receiving mail, and<BR>
>>>then all of a sudden, it just goes down for 10 minutes, and with Norton<BR>
>>>2001, I never had this problem, so what can I do? On Mon, 29 Mar 2004<BR>
>>>17:04:09 -0500, Blueprint Software wrote:<BR>
>>><BR>
>>>>On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 22:43:48 +0100 (MEZ), Tobias Huerlimann wrote:<BR>
>>>><BR>
>>>>><BR>
>>>>>I wonder if anyone has any news concerning the release of the source code<BR>
>>>>>of PMMail/2 at SourceForge? I realize that Brandon told us he'd post any<BR>
>>>>>news here as soon as he gets the source code from the developer. But that<BR>
>>>>>was more than two month ago, so I'm curious about what the current<BR>
>>>>>situation is like.<BR>
>>>><BR>
>>>>Just to update everyone, I am in fact still awaiting the source code<BR>
>>>>from Peter. He has been extremely busy getting the next release of<BR>
>>>>PMView ready for the past few weeks. At any rate, I will send another<BR>
>>>>nudge his way and see if we can't get something moving on SourceForge<BR>
>>>>sooner rather than later. As always, anything new will be posted here<BR>
>>>>first!<BR>
>>>><BR>
>>>>Thanks!<BR>
>>>><BR>
>>>>--<BR>
>>>><BR>
>>>><BR>
>>>>Brandon King<BR>
>>>><FONT COLOR=0000ff><U>brandonk@blueprintsoftwareworks.com<FONT COLOR=000000 DEFAULT="COLOR"></U><BR>
>>>><FONT COLOR=0000ff><U>www.blueprintsoftwareworks.com<FONT COLOR=000000 DEFAULT="COLOR"></U><BR>
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