[pmmail-list] A couple of 2634 wish list items....

Frank Winkler @home pmmail-list@blueprintsoftwareworks.com
Thu, 12 Sep 2002 15:08:15 +0200 (CEST)


On Thu, 12 Sep 2002 13:05:40 +0100 (BST), Dave Saville wrote:

 >>What really sucks is the fact that there are abviously two kinds of 
 >>clipboard. I experience situations where I copy some stuff with a "copy" 
 >>menu item and when I want to paste it with Shift-Ins I get something 
 >>different. The real contents have to be fetched with a "paste" menu. Don't 
 >>know if this also "works" vice cersa.

Let me say it in other words. "I experience situations" doesn't meet it, let's 
better say "it's perfectly reproducable"

 >Maybe some apps have an internal clipboard. The *real* clipboard can
 >hold one each of three types of data. Text, Bitmap & Metadata (Which
 >is GPI drawing commands).
 >
 >Next time it happens open another app and paste into that using
 >shift-insert and ctrl-v and see what happens. Or open a clipboard
 >viewer and do the two different keystrokes for copy and see what
 >happens.
 >
 >Either they have their own clipboard and/or for one combination they
 >are not updating the system clipboard but still have it in internal
 >buffers that the paste picks up somehow.

There must definitely be two clipboards, one for the keyboard games and one for 
WPS enhancers or regular PM apps with a copy/paste menu funtion. In the case I 
described above (actually Mozilla and PMMail as an app supporting both 
clipboards) Shift-Ins would paste what I last copied with CTRL-Ins while 
"Edit->Paste" inserts the GUI clipboard.
A 4OS2 window doesn't see a relation between Shift-Ins and the clipboard; it 
toggles overwrite mode here but it pastes from the "other" buffer with Xit's 
RMB menu or MMB. Funnily, it doesn't matter how I copied to the clipboard (e.g. 
from PMMail) here! Inside a PMMail window I can also mix them up. Strange ...

 >The *only* time I have ever seen this type of thing was on Sun OS
 >4.1.3 (aka Solaris one) When sometimes you got different results from
 >the cut & paste *keys* or the mouse. (For those who have never seen
 >one, a Sun keyboard has an extra pad of keys to the left of the main
 >qwerty set, amongst which are cut and paste.) But thats *nix & X
 >windows for you :-)

Keep cool, man :) ... I'm perfectly familiar with Sun boxes and SunOS - as I 
work for Sun :)) ... and what you mentioned is still alive in Solaris 2. But 
AFAIR it's limited to OpenWindows (which is the only one supporting the Sun 
_keys_) and can't be seen if you compile MIT X11 ... ?

Regards

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