2000-August Archives by Subject
Starting: Tue Aug 1 01:02:00 2000
Ending: Thu Aug 31 23:56:48 2000
Messages: 500
- *chuckle*
Doug Fitzpatrick
- *chuckle*
Steve Lamb
- *chuckle*
John Bridges
- A question about PMMail!
David Gaskill
- A question about PMMail!
Steve Lamb
- A question about PMMail!
Steve Lamb
- A question about PMMail!
David Gaskill
- A question about PMMail!
Steve Lamb
- A question about PMMail!
David Gaskill
- A question about PMMail!
Steve Lamb
- A question about PMMail!
Larry Ebbitt
- A question about PMMail!
Steve Lamb
- A question about PMMail!
Larry Ebbitt
- A question about PMMail!
Steve Lamb
- A question about PMMail!
Larry Ebbitt
- A question about PMMail!
Steve Lamb
- A question about PMMail!
Skip Huffman
- A question about PMMail!
Larry Ebbitt
- A question about PMMail!
Steve Lamb
- A question about PMMail!
Bill Wood
- A real problem with filtering!
Brian Morrison
- ADV: High Search Engine Rankings
pmmail@rpglink.com
- Blueprint Software and MainActor
Bubbles 'Danger' Dan
- Blueprint Software and MainActor
xavier caballe
- Blueprint Software and MainActor
Brian Morrison
- Blueprint Software and MainActor
Alexander Sarras
- Blueprint Software and MainActor
xavier caballe
- BSW Silence (was Re: PGP problems)
Bruce Francis
- BSW Silence (was Re: PGP problems)
Trevor Smith
- BSW Silence (was Re: PGP problems)
xavier caballe
- Changing subject lines on incoming messages
Paul Ratcliffe
- Changing subject lines on incoming messages
John Angelico
- Changing subject lines on incoming messages
John Angelico
- Changing subject lines on incoming messages
Kris Sorem Sr
- Changing subject lines on incoming messages
Dr. Jeffrey Race
- Changing subject lines on incoming messages
Paul Ratcliffe
- Changing subject lines on incoming messages
Paul Ratcliffe
- Changing subject lines on incoming messages
Zathras
- drag&drop between versions
Steve Wendt
- Editing Outbox Messages
John M Price PhD
- Editing Outbox Messages
xavier caballe
- Editing Outbox Messages
John Angelico
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Simon Bowring
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
John Bridges
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Steve Lamb
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Steve Lamb
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Bruce Francis
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Paul Ratcliffe
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Steve Lamb
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Larry Ebbitt
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Alexander Sarras
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Paul Ratcliffe
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Steve Lamb
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
David Gaskill
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Steve Lamb
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Darin McBride
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Steve Lamb
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Jonathan B. Bayer
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Darin McBride
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Skip Huffman
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Ken Diehl
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Bill Wood
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Darin McBride
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Ken Diehl
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Brian Morrison
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Steve Lamb
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Alexander Sarras
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Steve Lamb
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Steve Lamb
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Steve Lamb
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Rodney R. Korte
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Alexander Sarras
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Joachim F. Selinger
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Jonathan B. Bayer
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Steve Lamb
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Steve Lamb
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Simon Bowring
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Bill Wood
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Paul Ratcliffe
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Paul Ratcliffe
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Paul Ratcliffe
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Paul Ratcliffe
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Paul Ratcliffe
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Paul Ratcliffe
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Larry Ebbitt
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Larry Ebbitt
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Larry Ebbitt
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Larry Ebbitt
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Larry Ebbitt
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Larry Ebbitt
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Larry Ebbitt
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Kris Sorem Sr
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Steve Lamb
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Darin McBride
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Hazen Woods
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Alexander Sarras
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Jonathan B. Bayer
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Steve Marvin
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Larry Ebbitt
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Skip Huffman
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Steve Marvin
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Alexander Sarras
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Skip Huffman
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
David Gaskill
- ENOUGH!!! (was Re: Privacy from whom?)
Larry Ebbitt
- filter question
Ken Diehl
- filter question
Trevor Smith
- filter question
Ken Diehl
- filter question
Trevor Smith
- filter question
Michael A. Yetto
- filter question
Trevor Smith
- filter question
Steve Marvin
- filter question
Trevor Smith
- filter question
Michael A. Yetto
- filter question
Ken Diehl
- filter question - update
Ken Diehl
- filter question - update
Trevor Smith
- filter question - update
Ken Diehl
- From Thoma Bradford
Jimmy S. McCorquodale, Jr.
- From Thoma Bradford
Joachim Benjamins
- From Thoma Bradford
xavier caballe
- From Thoma Bradford
Bruce Francis
- From Thoma Bradford
Andreas Ludwig
- From Thoma Bradford
Steve Wendt
- From Thoma Bradford
Joachim F. Selinger
- From Thoma Bradford
xavier caballe
- Fwd: (null)
Mike Kilroy
- Hmmm...
Trevor Smith
- Hmmm...
Steve Lamb
- Hmmm...
Steve Lamb
- how to stop outlook from coming up!
Mike Kilroy
- how to stop outlook from coming up!
Xav
- how to stop outlook from coming up!
Kris Sorem Sr
- how to stop outlook from coming up!
Bill Wood
- how to stop outlook from coming up!
Larry Ebbitt
- how to stop outlook from coming up!
Kris Sorem Sr
- how to stop outlook from coming up!
Kris Sorem Sr
- how to stop outlook from coming up!
Jonathan B. Bayer
- how to stop outlook from coming up!
Ralph Cohen
- how to stop outlook from coming up!
xavier caballe
- how to stop outlook from coming up!
Bill Wood
- how to stop outlook from coming up!
Jonathan B. Bayer
- how to stop outlook from coming up!
Bill Wood
- how to stop outlook from coming up!
Jonathan B. Bayer
- I did it. I replied!
Trevor Smith
- I did it. I replied!
Hazen Woods
- I did it. I replied!
Steve Lamb
- I did it. I replied!
Larry Ebbitt
- I have a horrid suspicion...
Barnabo, Chris
- I have a horrid suspicion...
David Gaskill
- I have a horrid suspicion...
Dan Casey
- I have a horrid suspicion...
Shawn Tayler
- I have a horrid suspicion...
Joachim F. Selinger
- I have a horrid suspicion...
xavier caballe
- I have a horrid suspicion...
xavier caballe
- In case anyone wants to relive it...
Steve Lamb
- In case anyone wants to relive it...
Alexander Sarras
- In case anyone wants to relive it...
Steve Lamb
- In case anyone wants to relive it...
Alexander Sarras
- MailRoam (long append), was: Re: I have a horrid suspicion...
gomez
- Mailto: URL's
Markus Baertschi
- Mailto: URL's
xavier caballe
- MS Exchange servers, was: PGP problems
Isaac
- MX records and such
Trevor Smith
- MX records and such
Darrell Shandrow
- MX records and such
Steve Lamb
- MX records and such
Skip Huffman
- MX records and such
Steve Lamb
- Netscape compatibility PMMail-like?
Bill Wood
- Netscape compatibility PMMail-like?
Steve Wendt
- Netscape compatibility PMMail-like?
Robert Dahlem
- Netscape compatibility PMMail-like?
Bill Wood
- OT: Tar
Trevor Smith
- OT: Tar
Steve Marvin
- OT: Tar
Andre Nancoz
- OT: Tar
Larry Ebbitt
- OT: Tar
Trevor Smith
- OT: Tar
Robert Dahlem
- OT: Tar
Larry Ebbitt
- OT: Tar
Skip Huffman
- OT: Tar
Winfried Tilanus
- OT: Tar
Robert Dahlem
- Partilal messages left after download
John M Price PhD
- PGP 5.0 for OS/2
Trevor Smith
- PGP availability.
Skip Huffman
- PGP availability.
Brian Morrison
- PGP availability.
Alexander Sarras
- PGP availability.
Trevor Smith
- PGP availability.
Trevor Smith
- PGP availability.
xavier caballe
- PGP availability.
Andreas Ludwig
- PGP availability.
Andreas Ludwig
- PGP availability.
Brian Morrison
- PGP availability.
Ralph Sanford
- PGP availability.
xavier caballe
- PGP availability.
Skip Huffman
- PGP availability.
Trevor Smith
- PGP availability.
Skip Huffman
- PGP availability.
Trevor Smith
- PGP availability.
Robert Dahlem
- PGP availability.
Trevor Smith
- PGP Insecurity
Ralph Cohen
- PGP Insecurity
Trevor Smith
- PGP Insecurity
Dan Casey
- PGP Insecurity
Marty Abrego
- PGP Insecurity
John Thompson
- PGP Insecurity
Steve Lamb
- PGP Insecurity
Brian Morrison
- PGP problems
Andrew Webber
- PGP problems
Trevor Smith
- PGP problems
John Bridges
- PGP problems
Skip Huffman
- PGP problems
Brian Morrison
- PGP problems
Brian Morrison
- PGP problems
David Gaskill
- PGP problems
Steve Lamb
- PGP problems
John Bridges
- PGP problems
Steve Lamb
- PGP problems
Isaac
- PGP problems
Brian Morrison
- PGP problems
John Bridges
- PGP problems
Steve Lamb
- PGP problems
Steve Lamb
- PGP problems
Isaac
- PGP problems
David Gaskill
- PGP problems
Steve Lamb
- PGP problems
Steve Lamb
- PGP problems
Larry Ebbitt
- PGP problems
Alexander Sarras
- PGP problems
Alexander Sarras
- PGP problems
Steve Lamb
- PGP problems
Green No.#2
- PGP problems
Steve Lamb
- PGP problems
Cristian Secara
- PGP problems
Steve Lamb
- PGP problems
Larry Ebbitt
- PGP problems
Trevor Smith
- PGP problems
David Gaskill
- PGP problems
Trevor Smith
- PGP problems
Trevor Smith
- PGP problems
Trevor Smith
- PGP problems
Trevor Smith
- PGP problems
Trevor Smith
- PGP problems
Trevor Smith
- PGP problems
Steve Lamb
- PGP problems
Trevor Smith
- PGP problems
Steve Lamb
- PGP problems
Winfried Tilanus
- PGP problems
Winfried Tilanus
- PGP problems
Winfried Tilanus
- PGP problems
Brian Morrison
- PGP problems
Brian Morrison
- PGP problems
Brian Morrison
- PGP problems
Brian Morrison
- PGP problems
Joachim F. Selinger
- PGP problems
Steve Lamb
- PGP problems
John Bridges
- PGP problems
Brian Morrison
- PGP problems
Bruce Francis
- PGP problems
Bruce Francis
- PGP problems
Brian Morrison
- PGP problems
Steve Lamb
- PGP problems
Steve Lamb
- PGP problems
Brian Morrison
- PGP problems
John Bridges
- PGP problems
Bruce Francis
- PGP problems
Steve Lamb
- PGP problems
John Bridges
- PGP problems
Steve Lamb
- PGP problems
Brian Morrison
- PGP problems
Trevor Smith
- PGP problems
Trevor Smith
- PGP problems
Trevor Smith
- PGP problems
Trevor Smith
- PGP problems
Bruce Francis
- PGP problems
Steve Lamb
- PGP problems
Brian Morrison
- PGP problems
Brian Morrison
- PGP problems
Trevor Smith
- PGP problems
Steve Lamb
- PGP problems
Brian Morrison
- PGP problems
Steve Lamb
- PGP problems
John Bridges
- PGP problems
Alexander Sarras
- PGP problems
Alexander Sarras
- PGP problems
Steve Lamb
- PGP problems
Alexander Sarras
- PGP problems
Alexander Sarras
- PGP problems
Steve Lamb
- PGP problems
Alexander Sarras
- PGP problems
Alexander Sarras
- PGP problems
Alexander Sarras
- PGP problems
Steven Hollar
- PGP problems
Steve Lamb
- PGP problems
Alexander Sarras
- PGP problems
Steve Lamb
- PGP problems
Alexander Sarras
- PGP problems
Steven Tryon
- PGP problems
Larry Ebbitt
- PGP problems
Steve Lamb
- PGP problems
Larry Ebbitt
- PGP problems
Alexander Sarras
- PGP problems
Trevor Smith
- PGP problems
Trevor Smith
- PGP problems
Trevor Smith
- PGP problems
Trevor Smith
- PGP problems
Steve Lamb
- PGP problems
Alexander Sarras
- PGP problems
Alexander Sarras
- PGP problems
Trevor Smith
- PGP problems
Steve Lamb
- PGP problems
Larry Ebbitt
- PGP problems
Steve Lamb
- PGP problems
Steve Lamb
- PGP problems
Alexander Sarras
- PGP problems
Steve Lamb
- PGP problems
Trevor Smith
- PGP problems
Brian Morrison
- PGP problems
Brian Morrison
- PGP problems
Jonathan B. Bayer
- PGP problems
Skip Huffman
- PGP problems
Trevor Smith
- PGP problems
Bill Wood
- PGP problems
Brian Morrison
- PGP problems
Trevor Smith
- PGP problems
Alexander Sarras
- PGP problems
Steve Lamb
- PGP problems
Skip Huffman
- PGP problems
Larry Ebbitt
- PGP problems
Larry Ebbitt
- PGP problems
Trevor Smith
- PGP problems
Bill Wood
- PGP problems
Steve Lamb
- PGP problems
Ralph Cohen
- PGP problems
Brian Morrison
- PGP problems
Steve Lamb
- PGP problems
xavier caballe
- PGP problems
Winfried Tilanus
- PGP problems
Steve Lamb
- PGP problems
Bill Wood
- PGP problems
Steve Lamb
- PGP problems
Froggyball
- PGP problems
Steve Lamb
- PGP problems
David Gaskill
- PGP problems
Steve Lamb
- PGP problems
David Gaskill
- PGP problems
John Drabik
- PGP problems
Steve Lamb
- PGP problems
Steve Lamb
- PGP problems
David Gaskill
- PGP problems
Steve Lamb
- PGP problems
Froggyball
- PGP problems
David Gaskill
- PGP problems
Steve Lamb
- PGP problems
Froggyball
- PGP problems
David Gaskill
- PGP problems
Brian Morrison
- PGP problems
Brian Morrison
- PGP problems
Steve Lamb
- PGP problems
Paul Ratcliffe
- PGP problems
Andrew Webber
- PGP problems
Trevor Smith
- PGP problems
Trevor Smith
- PGP problems
Trevor Smith
- PGP problems
Trevor Smith
- PGP problems
Trevor Smith
- PGP problems
Trevor Smith
- PGP problems
Trevor Smith
- PGP problems
Trevor Smith
- PGP problems
Steve Lamb
- PGP problems
Brian Morrison
- PGP problems
xavier caballe
- PGP problems
xavier caballe
- PGP problems
Alexander Sarras
- PGP problems
Alexander Sarras
- PGP problems
Alexander Sarras
- PGP problems
Alexander Sarras
- PGP problems or willingness to use PGP
Ralph Sanford
- PGP problems or willingness to use PGP
Brian Morrison
- PGP problems or willingness to use PGP
Alexander Sarras
- pipe symbol wierdness
Fred J. Tydeman
- pipe symbol wierdness [was Re: Streams, pipes, redirection tutorial]
Simon Bowring
- pipe symbol wierdness [was Re: Streams, pipes, redirection tutorial]
Brian Morrison
- pipe symbol wierdness [was Re: Streams, pipes, redirection tutorial]
Simon Bowring
- pipe symbol wierdness [was Re: Streams, pipes, redirection tutorial]
Paul Ratcliffe
- pipe symbol wierdness [was Re: Streams, pipes, redirection tutorial]
John Bridges
- pipe symbol wierdness [was Re: Streams, pipes, redirection tutorial]
Brian Morrison
- pipe symbol wierdness [was Re: Streams, pipes, redirection tutorial]
Larry Ebbitt
- pipe symbol wierdness [was Re: Streams, pipes, redirection tutorial]
John Bridges
- pipe symbol wierdness [was Re: Streams, pipes, redirection tutorial]
Larry Ebbitt
- PMMail on my desktop, files on notebook?
Steven Tryon
- PMMail on my desktop, files on notebook?
Steven Tryon
- PMMail on my desktop, files on notebook?
Andrew Webber
- PMMail on my desktop, files on notebook?
Andrew Webber
- PMMail on my desktop, files on notebook?
Trevor Smith
- PMMail on my desktop, files on notebook?
Jonathan B. Bayer
- Privacy from whom?
Rodney R. Korte
- Privacy from whom?
Steve Lamb
- Privacy from whom?
Ralph Cohen
- Privacy from whom?
John Drabik
- Privacy from whom?
Rodney R. Korte
- Privacy from whom?
Rodney R. Korte
- Privacy from whom?
Steve Lamb
- Privacy from whom?
Ralph Cohen
- Privacy from whom?
Bill Wood
- Privacy from whom?
Bill Wood
- Privacy from whom?
Rodney R. Korte
- Privacy from whom?
Winfried Tilanus
- Privacy from whom?
Darin McBride
- Privacy from whom?
Don Morse
- Privacy from whom?
Bill Wood
- Privacy from whom?
Steve Lamb
- Privacy from whom?
Larry Ebbitt
- Privacy from whom?
Larry Ebbitt
- Privacy from whom?
Darin McBride
- Privacy, wasRe: PGP problems
Skip Huffman
- Problems with PmMail2000 and MS IE 5.5
Jonas T Larsson
- Problems with PmMail2000 and MS IE 5.5
xavier caballe
- Python
Dr. Jeffrey Race
- Python
David Gaskill
- Python
Winfried Tilanus
- Python
Steve Lamb
- Python
Steve Lamb
- Python
Winfried Tilanus
- Python
David Gaskill
- Python
Winfried Tilanus
- Python
Bill Wood
- Python
Isaac
- Python
Skip Huffman
- Python
David Gaskill
- Python
Steve Lamb
- Python
Steve Lamb
- Python
David Gaskill
- Python
Steve Lamb
- Python
The Doughnut Rep
- Python
Larry Ebbitt
- Python
Paul Ratcliffe
- Python
David Gaskill
- Python
Skip Huffman
- Python
Steve Lamb
- Rain/Spain nonsense (was Re: PGP problems)
Simon Bowring
- Rain/Spain nonsense (was Re: PGP problems)
xavier caballe
- Remote Control & Filtering
Bill Hartmann
- Remote Control & Filtering
Alexander Sarras
- Remote Control & Filtering
Trevor Smith
- Request for test assistance
Skip Huffman
- REXX Interpreter
Andreas Konrad
- REXX Interpreter
Isaac
- Rude, rude, rude!
Ralph Cohen
- Rude, rude, rude!
Trevor Smith
- Rude, rude, rude!
Brian Morrison
- Rude, rude, rude!
Rodney R. Korte
- Rude, rude, rude!
Bill Wood
- Rude, rude, rude!
Brian Morrison
- Rude, rude, rude!
Don Morse
- Rude, rude, rude!
Brian Morrison
- Rude, rude, rude!
Brian Morrison
- Rude, rude, rude!
Carl S. Hayes
- Rude, rude, rude!
Carl S. Hayes
- Rude, rude, rude!
Robert Dahlem
- Still: PGP problems/suggestions, not stupid privacy pissing match.
Skip Huffman
- strange behaviour ;)
gomez
- strange behaviour ;)
Jonathan B. Bayer
- strange behaviour ;)
Brian Morrison
- Streams, pipes, redirection tutorial [was Re: OT: Tar]
Simon Bowring
- Streams, pipes, redirection tutorial [was Re: OT: Tar]
Steve Lamb
- Streams, pipes, redirection tutorial [was Re: OT: Tar]
Simon Bowring
- Stupid privacy pissing match, was:Re: PGP problems
Skip Huffman
- Stupid privacy pissing match, was:Re: PGP problems
Trevor Smith
- Survey (pmmail)
Jimmy S. McCorquodale, Jr.
- Survey (pmmail)
Jimmy S. McCorquodale, Jr.
- Survey (pmmail)
Isaac
- Survey (pmmail)
Ralph Cohen
- Survey (pmmail)
Ralph Cohen
- Survey (pmmail)
Steve Lamb
- Survey (pmmail)
Andreas Ludwig
- Survey (pmmail)
Andreas Ludwig
- Survey (pmmail)
Ralph Cohen
- T-4 and counting...
Steve Lamb
- T-4 and counting...
Hazen Woods
- T-4 and counting...
Jimmy S. McCorquodale, Jr.
- T-4 and counting...
Steve Lamb
- T-4 and counting...
Steve Lamb
- T-4 and counting...
Bruce Francis
- T-4 and counting...
Steve Lamb
- T-4 and counting...
xavier caballe
- T-4 and counting...
Jimmy S. McCorquodale, Jr.
- T-4 and counting...
Brian Morrison
- T-4 and counting...
Jimmy S. McCorquodale, Jr.
- T-4 and counting...
Brian Morrison
- T-4 and counting...
Jimmy S. McCorquodale, Jr.
- T-4 and counting...
Brian Morrison
- T-4 and counting...
Ralph Cohen
- T-4 and counting...
John Bridges
- Test #1, ignore
Steve Lamb
- Test #1, ignore
Steve Lamb
- Test #1, ignore
Brian Morrison
- Test #1, ignore
Steve Lamb
- test- don't reply
Hazen Woods
- Upgrading PMM98 to PMM2K
Stephen Berg
Last message date:
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Archived on: Tue Oct 16 00:54:02 2001
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